[Baynative]

Kicking asphalt was the sole domain of Chevy, Ford and Mopar until '64 when Pontiac finally joined the party with the GTO. It was a genuine ground breaker. But lost its direction after '67 and went into the cartoon books with 'the Judge' in 1969 - a car that wasn't a hit named after a song that wasn't a hit.

"Here come dah Judge"
(give me a break)

[ProtectOurFreedom]

I completely forgot about that utterly stupid “The Judge.”

That was the precise moment you knew the marketing wizards, bean counters, and lawyers had taken control from the engineers.

It’s funny...I still have no clue where “Here come dah judge” came from. I never saw the tv show or movie where it originated. I had mostly given up on TV when The Beave got too old and Cheyenne, Sugarfoot, Maverick, Have Gun; Will Travel, and Wanted Dead or Alive all went off the air.

[Neidermeyer]

Kicking asphalt was the sole domain of Chevy, Ford and Mopar until ‘64 when Pontiac finally joined the party with the GTO.
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A 409 Chevy , FE powered Galaxy or a 413/426 max wedge Mopar (1964 was pre 426 Hemi) would have a hard time with a 421 SD Catalina... ,, The GTO was great as it brought the horsepower race to a smaller lighter platform than the full size “stockers”. Pontiacs V8’s were basically every bit as efficient as a SBC but with BB cubes... Deadly. Many of the best parts of the SBC were copied directly from the slightly earlier modern Pontiac V8.

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