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California reels as the most destructive wildfire in the state's HISTORY kills at least NINE [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^
| Novemebr 10, 2018
| Keith Griffith
Posted on 11/10/2018 4:59:22 AM PST by C19fan
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I am sure the California political elite will shift the blame to Trump.
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posted on
11/10/2018 4:59:22 AM PST
by
C19fan
To: C19fan
That and gloBULL warming. I see on some lefty blogs theyre mentioning the fires and blaming the president pulling us out of the Paris Accords!
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posted on
11/10/2018 5:02:49 AM PST
by
dowcaet
To: C19fan
Jerry Brown/Gavin Newsome must need more Federal dollars for this to happen...
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posted on
11/10/2018 5:13:24 AM PST
by
ObozoMustGo2012
("Be quiet... you are #fakenews!")
To: dowcaet
That would have been a wonderful idea! We could have had a bad economy and still have California wildfires at the same time. /sarc
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posted on
11/10/2018 5:13:35 AM PST
by
CommieCutter
("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker)
To: C19fan
Californians can thank themselves for the tragedy. They voted for politicians and policies for cleaner air, and this fire was the direct result:
https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3798 Check the statements about the VMP program which was crippled by CARB. The CARB regulations are written in such a way that if you perform burns on safe days, that is banned due to low mixing and the possibilitiy of pollution. OTOH if you burn on a high mixing day that is ok and of course it is also dangerous. So agencies and landowners do nothing to avoid liabilitiy from CARB and related lawsuits.
The fault for this tragedy belongs to CARB and the manhy idiots who support CARB.
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posted on
11/10/2018 5:17:28 AM PST
by
palmer
(...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
To: C19fan
The blood is on hands of tree huggers who fight clearing of forests.
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posted on
11/10/2018 5:17:49 AM PST
by
entropy12
(One million LEGAL immigrants/year is too many, without vetting for skills, Wealth or English skills.)
To: dowcaet
"Global warming" may be yet another reason that they are avoiding the controlled burning that is critical to preventing these wildfires. It's possible to clear land other ways, but many times more expensive and restricted anyway due to water quality regulations.
I'll say this about global warming though. Looking through a couple thousand years of fire history (charcoal layers) and temperature from proxies, the cooler it is, the more fires there are. That because when it is cooler it is rainier and windier.
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posted on
11/10/2018 5:21:04 AM PST
by
palmer
(...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
To: entropy12
The blood of the trees (sap?) is on their hands. If they allowed or performed low intensity burns that remove the brush, the trees would be fine. They have existed that way for thousands of years. Some trees burned this past week were hundreds of years old and had been through many fires before settlement. But those were natural low intensity fires because there were no “brush huggers” letting the brush build up.
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posted on
11/10/2018 5:25:10 AM PST
by
palmer
(...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: C19fan
The daughter of a friend of mine goes to Pepperdine. It has been a rough week for them. Prayers to all affected.
To: dowcaet
The next thing you know they will want more foreign aid dollars from the US.
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posted on
11/10/2018 5:56:10 AM PST
by
RonnG
( v)
To: entropy12
The blood is on hands of tree huggers who fight clearing of forests. I bet fewer than 10% of the residents wanted the forests around Paradise cleared before the fire.
It turns out that many people like to live in forested areas.
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posted on
11/10/2018 6:00:19 AM PST
by
semimojo
To: C19fan
Malibu and Pompeii have a lot in common. This resembles the Last Days of Pompeii,
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posted on
11/10/2018 6:05:19 AM PST
by
kenmcg
(tHE WHOLE)
To: semimojo
It turns out that many people like to live in forested areas. And in coastal hills with ocean views...with no nearby neighbors. Given the nature of Santa Ana/Diablo winds, there is virtually no way to guarantee fire safety in some of California's most desirable areas. It's like building a beach house on the Outer Banks - a beautiful place, but one day you know you're going to get it.
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posted on
11/10/2018 6:09:26 AM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
To: C19fan
We have, friends who have a grand daughter who is fighting this fire with other fire fighters.
Last year, she was on the front lines fighting the fires in the wine counties.
She told her grandparents, this fire was more powerful, more dangerous and totally out of control.
Our firefighters need our prayers, and the people who lost homes and maybe loved ones, Thursday.
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posted on
11/10/2018 6:14:43 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(Why are the libs suddenly in love with our fired AG and want to protect him?)
To: C19fan
I enjoy watching natural disaster videos. Tornadoes, well, you cant make more of those. However, California uses a fake moral reason for greatly increasing fires in its state, so Im really happy they collectively agree to encourage fires. That doesnt happen in other states or countries.
Go California! Make American fire videos better!
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posted on
11/10/2018 6:22:06 AM PST
by
ConservativeMind
(Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
To: C19fan
“I am sure the California political elite will shift the blame to Trump.”
That would be to Trumps credit!
I’d send Trump an extra contribution if it happens!
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posted on
11/10/2018 6:34:03 AM PST
by
EnglishOnly
(Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
To: Dont tread and Live
“let it all burn...who gives a flip....lol..... burn baby burn.”...
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The bad side of your idea is that those who are “displaced” will move to other states like they have done to Colorado and several other once beautiful places to live, bringing their ideas to those places thus continuing their stupidity somewhere else.
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posted on
11/10/2018 6:34:48 AM PST
by
DaveA37
To: entropy12
"The blood is on hands of tree huggers who fight clearing of forests." Proper forest management would pretty much eliminate this kind of problem, as well as removing more CO2 from the air (new growth sucks up far more CO2 than mature forest).
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posted on
11/10/2018 6:54:30 AM PST
by
Wonder Warthog
(The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
To: Dont tread and Live
“let it all burn...who gives a flip....lol..... burn baby burn.”
You A$$HOLE! There are decent people who are dead. You should be Zotted for that kind of mindless comment! F*ck You!
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