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To: OddLane

I’m Asian living in America for 27 years. My take on this is that there is something seriously wrong with west civilization. I don’t know what it is. They are very very good in building what Europe is now. They are very very talented to advance civilization and quality of life. Here come a problem : regardless how high quality of life is, a society has to have basic support for it to function. Garbage collectors, nanny, childcare,restaurant workers; laundry worker and other low paying professionals. They are imperative to society and they must be above certain level proportionate to total population. When life is so good like Europe and people so enjoy their lives there, fewer and fewer people are willing to to do these low pay jobs. When a country is aging, they must support larger retired population in pension. Germany and Japan are having this problems. Low level service workers are in shortage and not enough workers pay into pension for old people. When life is good, people tend to enjoy it more which means less marriage and fewer children. It worsens the problem. It’s dilemma


13 posted on 11/01/2018 1:54:19 PM PDT by Lee25
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To: Lee25

Reminds me of “Brave New World”.

The put a bunch of Alpha + (the most intelligent, athletic, well-adjusted) on a island. They starved.

They needed moronic Deltas to do the dirty work.

I’m in favor of AI robots for this.

That is, until they become the overlords.


18 posted on 11/01/2018 1:59:13 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Lee25

Very insightful post! I think you summarized the situation very well.


22 posted on 11/01/2018 2:08:03 PM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Lee25

Many women in the U.S.A. were taught during the early 1970s, that being loyal to husbands and having children was no fun. Feminist laws and policies were imposed on us by wealthier, more influential constituents.

During the late 1970s, many employers began to despise white men as employees. It was more a matter of vanities in managers than employee costs. They wanted employees who are more subservient in ways unrelated to work.

Western culture is suffering from a moral decline that has been ongoing for a couple of generations. Around 72,000 Americans died from drug overdoses last year. Too many are covered with tattoos, carrying venereal diseases and obviously intellectually lost.

It’s time for all good families to rise from the ashes to compete by striving to stay more cohesive, becoming more curious, engaging in lifelong self-study and starting businesses.


35 posted on 11/01/2018 2:33:15 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Lee25

Very astute observations!


44 posted on 11/01/2018 4:29:56 PM PDT by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: Lee25
You are right that society needs all sorts of people. And there is a quote which, unfortunately, I can’t attribute:
If society does not respect both its philosophers and its plumbers, neither its theories nor its pipes will hold water.
You never knew the America that existed before WWII, of course - even I, who am now “older than dirt” was born before America entered that war. But before the war, it was taken for granted that men had jobs and women were homemakers. WWII set the precedent that women were able to do work which was traditionally done by men, and the old order of women as homemakers (and/or teachers or nurses, no other professions were open to them) gradually broke down.

Concomitantly women have been admitted into the colleges and graduate schools, and - instead of merely becoming a presence there, have begun to dominate there. It’s enough to make you wonder if John Adams wasn’t right when he responded to Abigail Adams’ letter saying

I long to hear that you have declared an independancy�and by the way in the new Code of Laws which I suppose it will be necessary for you to make I desire you would Remember the Ladies, and be more generous and favourable to them than your ancestors. Do not put such unlimited power into the hands of the Husbands. Remember all Men would be tyrants if they could. If perticuliar care and attention is not paid to the Laidies we are determined to foment a Rebelion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any Laws in which we have no voice, or Representation.
. . . to which John Adams replied,
But your Letter was the first Intimation that another Tribe more numerous and powerfull than all the rest were grown discontented. -- This is rather too coarse a Compliment but you are so saucy, I wont blot it out.

Depend upon it, We know better than to repeal our Masculine systems. Altho they are in full Force, you know they are little more than Theory. We dare not exert our Power in its full Latitude. We are obliged to go fair, and softly, and in Practice you know We are the subjects. We have only the Name of Masters, and rather than give up this, which would compleatly subject Us to the Despotism of the Peticoat, I hope General Washington, and all our brave Heroes would fight.


45 posted on 11/01/2018 6:43:03 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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