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The British developed the .280, 7 mm, round during the Post-World War II era. The Americans insisted on making the 7.62X51 MM round the NATO standard. Of course the Americans went even smaller round with the development of the 5.56X45 MM. Now the Americans want a bullet very similar to the .280 British.
1 posted on 10/30/2018 6:25:11 AM PDT by C19fan
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I would think General Milley would know the difference between a round size in millimeters and a caliber, but perhaps not. A 6.8 caliber would be 6.8 inches in diameter.


2 posted on 10/30/2018 6:28:46 AM PDT by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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Is the term “caliber” proper here? I assume it is a 6.8mm round. I am used to hearing “caliber” referred to as inches.

Am I old fashioned? Did I miss the metric conversion of everything?


3 posted on 10/30/2018 6:30:08 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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I presume (cause its bad to ASSume) that the General is referring to the 6.8 mm SPC.


5 posted on 10/30/2018 6:33:20 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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The army experimented with a .17 caliber round in the middle 70’s.

I picked up a few cases from a range on Hunter Liggett. Found a couple of FMJ 17 caliber bullets in the backstop, too, as I recall.

I was running a Meteorological Team in support of Army RDT&E there at the time.


9 posted on 10/30/2018 6:40:11 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I purchased a 6mm Swedish Mauser back in the 80's from Woolworths for $60. The gun holds tighter groupings than my 30-06 Springfield at 100 yards.

Not much punch as a deer or big game rifle, but cheap ammo and great varmint round.

10 posted on 10/30/2018 6:43:27 AM PDT by blackdog
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Let’s hope that this is not the 6.8 SPC round, as that has only slightly better aerodynamics than a brick. Build a round that can fit into a standard M4 magazine that has a bullet with a coefficient of drag closer to that of a 6.5 mm bullet, and you will have a winner.

There should also be a lot of winners in the civilian marketplace, as the military sells off all of its 5.56 mm uppers and ammo. Given Trump’s propensity for wanting to make government more efficient, there is no reason not to sell off unneeded surplus and recoup the money.


16 posted on 10/30/2018 6:50:21 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Damn, army guys are impressive. Us Coasties needed a whole ship to back up such a round that wasn’t even that big, only 5”.


21 posted on 10/30/2018 6:56:23 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (<---Time Magazine's 2006 Person of the Year)
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“This weapon has an accurate range far in excess of any known existing military rifle today. It will fire at speeds that far exceed the velocity of bullets today,” he said. It will penetrate any known body armor or any expected to be developed in the next 25 years, he added.

I think the good general may be just a bit optimistic. He certainly can’t be thinking of the 6.8 SPC which was referenced earlier in the article, albeit not specifically by name. In fact what he is claiming is ballisically impossible. I suspect this is more of a sales pitch to ill informed and gullible congresscritters.


24 posted on 10/30/2018 6:58:16 AM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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Will it be a fully semi-automatic 6.8 caliber?


25 posted on 10/30/2018 7:00:17 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Vote your bible.)
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Awesome. Just do it. This is great news.


26 posted on 10/30/2018 7:11:18 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I hate modern life)
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The British had planned to move to a
.280 calibre rifle prior to WWI, the new rifle was to be the P-14 which was susequently rechambered to .303 as a war time exigency to to supplement the SMLE. The P-14 was produced by Winchester and Eddystone (Remington). Due to a shortage of ‘03 Springfields the P-14 action was redesigned as the P-17 in 30-06. More P-17s than ‘03s were used by American soldiers during WWI. Remington eventuall used the used to P-17 as the basis for the Model 30, a fine rifle. You could still see the P-17 influence 50 years later in the Reminton 660 series with its dogleg bolt handle. It is said that the Remington 700 was an updated version of the Model 30, thus the P-14 - P17 family, but I have not studied to 700 enough to confirm this.


28 posted on 10/30/2018 7:42:42 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buarsh)
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Later.


30 posted on 10/30/2018 8:16:32 AM PDT by yarddog
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