Posted on 10/22/2018 2:04:36 PM PDT by Kevin in California
Life will be great again when I pass this damn thing. Right now, it's giving me a break. Started this past late Friday morning while driving. Ever since then, it's been off and on pain on a level of 7 out of 10. Early this morning was an ordeal as the pain started just after midnight and lasted until about 3:30am. I had to take the day off work. Been drinking boatloads of water since Friday.
Someone said drink fresh lemonade or lemon juice. Thoughts?
BTW, this is my 3rd bout with these things so not my first rodeo. First two were on my left kidney. This one's on the right.
Like cancer, KIDNEY STONES SUCK!
Won’t help you pass them (I’m a urologist). You need to drink increased fluid, unless there is a plan for surgery. Tamsulosin, or Flomax, can also help stones in the lower ureter (the channel from the kidney to the bladder). I certainly feel for my patients with stones, and pray I don’t pass one myself.
This was fall of 2017. Not ancient history but I have heard now the maximum number per script is 28. But still 4 scripts in like 30 days from 4 different docs at ER/Office visits . . . seems excessive to me.
I don’t think my current Dr. has told me what they were.
From Mayo Clinic:
Medications can control the amount of minerals and salts in your urine and may be helpful in people who form certain kinds of stones. The type of medication your doctor prescribes will depend on the kind of kidney stones you have. Here are some examples:
Calcium stones. To help prevent calcium stones from forming, your doctor may prescribe a thiazide diuretic or a phosphate-containing preparation.
Uric acid stones. Your doctor may prescribe allopurinol (Zyloprim, Aloprim) to reduce uric acid levels in your blood and urine and a medicine to keep your urine alkaline. In some cases, allopurinol and an alkalizing agent may dissolve the uric acid stones.
Struvite stones. To prevent struvite stones, your doctor may recommend strategies to keep your urine free of bacteria that cause infection. Long-term use of antibiotics in small doses may help achieve this goal. For instance, your doctor may recommend an antibiotic before and for a while after surgery to treat your kidney stones.
Cystine stones. Cystine stones can be difficult to treat. Your doctor may recommend that you drink more fluids so that you produce a lot more urine. If that alone doesn't help, your doctor may also prescribe a medication that decreases the amount of cystine in your urine.
See my post #104.
I get a lot of kidney stones. have went through the procedure to explode them five times and suffered others until they passed.Then I discovered lemon juice and apple cider vinegar.
Squeeze half a lemon into a glass, add 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. I add a little water and sugar because it tastes horrible.Take it every hour or so until the pain goes away and then once or twice a day until it passes. It will dissolve the stone and it usually passes within a week.
I second your statement. Chanca Piedra tea from sunfoods disolved my stone. It saved me from surgery. It has worked on other people that I told.
I have seen over the counter products promising to break up stones that all have Chaca Piedra. When the X ray showed this latest stone I bought a couple of them. Any doctors on here know anything about this good or bad? (REALLY not looking forward to the next few weeks)
Why doesn’t Dr. Weil, or No Well, just say avoid all healthy foods. I believe he is missing something.
go to https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/kidney_stones.html#intro
to see all the remedies look to right of patch and click on ALL REMEDIES....people give their opinions of how it worked or didn’t work. As you scroll down the box will pop up on the right showing all remedies (the number beside each remedy is comments people gave concerning that particular remedy). So many ailments my family have had was solved on this site.
Definitely worth trying.
My personal pain scale after having a kidney stone:
1 - paper cut / bee sting
2 - dislocated shoulder
3 - 10 immunizations in 1 day
4 - 80 foot rock climbing fall
5 - Spinal tap and associated headache
6 - Shoulder / knee surgery
7 - Heart stopped in ER due to SVT
8 - Throat surgery combined with deviated septum surgery
9 - Literally throwing up in the ER from the pain of a kidney stone
10 - passing out from pain
Thank the Lord that I have not reached a 10
This reminds me of something Col. Bull Simons taught some of his special task guys. He gave them all a Sykes-Fairbairne type knife and showed them how to stab a sentry in the kidney.
He said they would be in so much pain that they would not be able to scream.
I feel for you; I really do. I am a kidney stone manufacturing machine. I’ve had more than a hundred of them, the first in 1976. The first was so bad, I really thought I was going to die. Now, I’m so used to it, sometimes I don’t even know it’s happening until I pass them. The lack of pain is probably due to so much scar tissue on my ureters.
Those that I couldn’t pass on my own, I’ve had them removed by every known procedure except open kidney surgery.
I had the best urologist, in that he told me to drink lots of beer. Sadly he moved away to New England.
Good luck!
Prayers up for you, FRiend. I had stones in 1990 and 1992. Nearly grounded me for good. The latter made me ask myself for a week “is this how it feels to die?”
Don’t know if I passed them or what. Just know that the terrible pain called God’s revenge on men for not having children finally went away. I still have pain pills from then and if that warning sign of lower back pain plus abdominal pain appears, I drink a ton of water. So far it’s worked.
All you FReepers have succeeded in scaring the h3ll out of me. I am becoming elderly, getting up there in age.
I have never experienced these quite painful ailments. I don’t know if I am doing things right or wrong anymore. Heavens if I modify a life behavior and a painful ailment pops up.
I do not know how much longer I can go on pain free. Life does surprise with a smack down when you least expect it. I cannot give up eating calcium rich spinach. The source must be elsewhere.
But I will keep drinking the water and tea fluids.
But you folks certainly scare me a lot with a painful dose of reality.
One doctor advised plenty of water and some lemonade and to avoid (at most eat in small doses) spinach, red beets, and rhubarb.
Sorry for your K-stones seen people with them and the pain involved...
My favorite is when I'm minding my own business, and one of them gets, uh, stuck in the pipe.
Been there and done that too. Only real morphine comes close to relief like a beautiful God given wave.
I have only had one and it passed in a day. Dry heaves like an alien had invaded my body and had to come out.
Cranberry juice? But then there is all that dang HFCS junk.
Beer has mixed reviews, perhaps depending on the type of stone?
IDK...
I have passed them in the past with no knowledge other than the stone in the urinal/toilet drifting to the bottom...
The one I have now is too big to pass (8mm). This will get sporty.
But I have been in an emergency room with an IV of morphine three times now.
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