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We all entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts.

Trump is an islationist? why are we in Sudan/HOA? Why are we in SYR/IRQ/AFG etc? Hmm, not fitting that narrative very well, espc with his NOK and KSA and RUS and IRN and … stances.

All wars are the result of mistakes in diplomacy, but often diplomacy only is one sided. Perhaps we should have done more diplomacy, perhaps not. Regarding the “bloodbath” part, why s it that now the story line misses the fact that the world’s jihadis’ found it easier to attack armed troops in IRQ than in say, Los Angeles? Think about it, some 10k know and identified foreign fighters from all over the Muslim world came to IRQ to die, where we were rather free and able to help them meet their end. Glad they did and didn’t decide to come to the US and seek their revenge.

AQI was a threat, Saddam invited them to IRQ, they were involved in 9/11 etc.

To me, the horror was not OIF 03-14, but the abandonment of the fledgling Representative Republic by Obama and congress in 14-16. It took nearly 40 years post WWII to see Germany stable and safe, why only 6-8 for IRQ?

Don’t get too committed to Trumps “nonintervention” policy-one day someone may just decide to test his resolve regarding his forceful diplomacy. Sooner than later I think.

Trumps’ policy is speak loudly and carry a big stick. I like it, but it works only as long as the opponent has something to lose.

Overall, MAGA is the key- all the parts- economically, militarily and diplomatically. Be too strong in all the above for any other state actor to risk it all.

As one of those who was there multiple times, thanks for your condolences, but our hearts ( as a whole) were in it to win it. Blame Obama for the wasted part. ISIS is Obamas ME legacy, along with failed states like Libya and Sudan and SYR etc.

As one of those who was there multiple times, thanks for your condolences, but our hearts ( as a whole) were in it to win it. Blame Obama for the wasted part. ISIS is Obamas ME legacy, along with failed states like Libya and Sudan and SYR etc.

Thanks for being over there and explaining the necessity of it. If I were in charge I would have put a price on Saddam's head of one billion dollars, then upped it a hundred million per day until he was dead. When the new leader took over, we'd put one billion in escrow with the warning they'd have to do better than Saddam. I'd much prefer that than losing even one American life.

That said, my feelings on the fight over there is that it did draw the crazy foreign fighters into a bloodbath, so that is a huge positive. It is also hard for people to remember the national sentiment post 9/11. We went into Afghanistan and knocked over a few mud huts and took over the government with almost no effort, but the Taliban just faded away. It's wasn't very satisfying, if that is the proper way to explain it. In Iraq, we saw a legit government with actual infrastructure. The planners (on television) explained how it was going to be a "proper" war with divisions of armor sweeping over the desert and engaging with the vaunted Republican Guard forces of the Iraqi army. People of all political stripes wanted to take the fight to Saddam because there was a hint of him supporting the 9/11 attackers, and of course his WMD's. It was only after the invasion was a total success, but the peace became messy, that Democrats begged off and started dumping on our effort. Obama was the ultimate fruition of that losing mindset.

Trump is an islationist?

Show me where I said that and I'll take the time to read the rest of your post.