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Why the plane loss at Tindall AFB ? (Vanity)
10/16/2018 | Me

Posted on 10/16/2018 3:16:15 PM PDT by llevrok

I am no military vet, so this is perhaps a naive question -

A number of planes at Tindall were left on base and suffered partial or full damage. Some were F22's, no small loss.

Why were not all planes flown out the day before when it was obvious this was going to be ground zero for Hurricane Michael or near it?

Were they hanger queens and not flight ready? Or were there not the crews ready to fly them out?

It seems strange to me so many flying assets were left back.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: f22; hurricane; tindall
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1 posted on 10/16/2018 3:16:15 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

The plane I saw flipped looked like a display plane.


2 posted on 10/16/2018 3:17:09 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

There were a few of those. But many “air worthy” ones in damaged hangers according to the USAF page.


3 posted on 10/16/2018 3:19:39 PM PDT by llevrok (Vote while it's still legal.)
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To: llevrok

I saw a news report that said there were maintenance and spare parts issues so they could not be flown out. If true it’s pathetic.


4 posted on 10/16/2018 3:19:57 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: llevrok

The bigger question is, why were there only 33 out of 55 aircraft flyable leading up to the storm? That’s a pretty lousy readiness rate, especially for a top of the line fighter fresh off the assembly line.


5 posted on 10/16/2018 3:20:09 PM PDT by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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To: llevrok

Follow the money. New contracts for unions coming up.


6 posted on 10/16/2018 3:26:38 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!"to)
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To: llevrok
For the cost of a very small fraction of one F22, you could build a deluxe hardened hurricane proof hangar or two. Seems to be a no-brainer in an area subject to violent thunderstorms, tornadoes, and hurricanes.
 
7 posted on 10/16/2018 3:29:24 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies!)
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To: llevrok

Because new F-22’s are a lot cheaper than reinforced concrete bunkers. /sarcasm


8 posted on 10/16/2018 3:30:10 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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I was told the current aircraft were flown to Texas and Ohio before the storm. I can not believe the AF would leave their favorite toys for the storm.


9 posted on 10/16/2018 3:30:45 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

you beat me to it


10 posted on 10/16/2018 3:30:46 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: raybbr

It is interesting how Trump managed to create a hurricane to hit Florida and make jobs for unionized construction workers. Perhaps he is hoping the unionized construction workers will vote for Republicans next month and for in in 2020.

I’m posting the above as sarcasm but we’ll probably find it being used by the Dems before election day.


11 posted on 10/16/2018 3:30:55 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If spare parts and maintenance are the case, thank Obama and his hatred of the military.


12 posted on 10/16/2018 3:31:50 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: GreyFriar

No hurricanes before Trump.


13 posted on 10/16/2018 3:35:53 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: dirtboy; llevrok

The plane, a F-15, flipped on its back was a non-flying display aircraft, often called “gate guards” because they are either near the airbase gate or the flight line. In the same display area are a: F-4 Phantom, F-86 Sabre, and a F-102.

An example of a literal gate guard is the F-105 Thunderchief that is on a pedestal at the entrance to Bolling Air Force Base in Washington, DC. It is a ‘memorial’ to the last fighter squadron that was based at Bolling, it flew F-105s.


14 posted on 10/16/2018 3:37:35 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: llevrok

Take as many grains of salt as you need but here is one answer/excuse.

The F-22s left behind could not fly for either mechanical or safety reasons,
said a spokeswoman, who also said all the hangars on base were damaged.

http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2018/October%202018/Tyndall-F-22s-Left-Behind-Before-Michael-Hit-Possibly-Damaged-Beyond-Repair.aspx


15 posted on 10/16/2018 3:37:49 PM PDT by deport
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To: TADSLOS

Yeah...kind of interesting isn’t it.

But we are “ready” for anything.


16 posted on 10/16/2018 3:46:09 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: deport
The Navy gets in on the act too. At the entrance to Naval Submarine Base, Kings Bay, there is the sail of the USS George Bancroft (SSBN-643).

WWG1WGA

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
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17 posted on 10/16/2018 3:46:45 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: GreyFriar

That’s where I was born. 8>)


18 posted on 10/16/2018 3:46:47 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: GreyFriar
The "Century Circle" at Edwards Air Force Base West Gate displays six Air Force aircraft that make up the ‘Century Series’ fighters; the F-100, F-101, F-102, F-104, F-105 and F-106. There is also a YC-15 transport aircraft on exhibit. The "Balls 8" B-52 That dropped the X-15 experimental aircraft is at the North Gate, too.


19 posted on 10/16/2018 3:48:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Midwesterner53

I thought they were done with the F22 in favor of the F 35.

Oops...they got broke. I guess we need more 35’s.


20 posted on 10/16/2018 3:48:39 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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