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Gravitational waves provide dose of reality about extra dimensions (there aren't any)
Phys.org ^ | 9/14/18 | Louise Lerner

Posted on 09/15/2018 2:10:37 AM PDT by LibWhacker

In new study, UChicago astronomers find no evidence for extra spatial dimensions to the universe based on gravitational wave data. Credit: Courtesy of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center CI Lab

While last year's discovery of gravitational waves from colliding neutron stars was earth-shaking, it won't add extra dimensions to our understanding of the universe—not literal ones, at least.

University of Chicago astronomers found no evidence for extra spatial dimensions to the universe based on the gravitational wave data. Their research, published in the Journal of Cosmology and Astroparticle Physics, is one of many papers in the wake of the extraordinary announcement last year that LIGO had detected a neutron star collision.

The first-ever detection of gravitational waves in 2015, for which three physicists won the Nobel Prize last year, was the result of two black holes crashing together. Last year, scientists observed two neutron stars collide. The major difference between the two is that astronomers could see the aftermath of the neutron star collision with a conventional telescope, producing two readings that can be compared: one in gravity, and one in electromagnetic (light) waves.

"This is the very first time we've been able to detect sources simultaneously in both gravitational and light waves," said Prof. Daniel Holz. "This provides an entirely new and exciting probe, and we've been learning all sorts of interesting things about the universe."

Einstein's theory of general relativity explains the solar system very well, but as scientists learned more about the universe beyond, big holes in our understanding began to emerge. Two of these are dark matter, one of the basic ingredients of the universe; and dark energy, the mysterious force that's making the universe expand faster over time.

Scientists have proposed all kinds of theories to explain dark matter and dark energy, and "a lot of alternate theories to general relativity start with adding an extra dimension," said graduate student Maya Fishbach, a coauthor on the paper. One theory is that over long distances, gravity would "leak" into the additional dimensions. This would cause gravity to appear weaker, and could account for the inconsistencies.

The one-two punch of gravitational waves and light from the neutron star collision detected last year offered one way for Holz and Fishbach to test this theory. The gravitational waves from the collision reverberated in LIGO the morning of Aug. 17, 2017, followed by detections of gamma-rays, X-rays, radio waves, and optical and infrared light. If gravity were leaking into other dimensions along the way, then the signal they measured in the gravitational wave detectors would have been weaker than expected. But it wasn't.

It appears for now that the universe has the same familiar dimensions—three in space and one of time—even on scales of a hundred million light-years.

But this is just the beginning, scientists said. "There are so many theories that until now, we didn't have concrete ways to test," Fishbach said. "This changes how a lot of people can do their astronomy."

"We look forward to seeing what gravitational-wave surprises the universe might have in store for us," Holz said.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: dimensions; extra; gravitational; waves
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To: D Rider

Read my #12.

This doesn’t eliminate string theory or I suppose the multiverse.


21 posted on 09/15/2018 6:42:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: lonevoice

Very interesting.


22 posted on 09/15/2018 6:46:33 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: LibWhacker
t appears for now that the universe has the same familiar dimensions—three in space and one of time—even on scales of a hundred million light-years.

I am disappointed. I enjoyed the idea that a being that existed in 4 or more dimensions could enter our three dimensional universe and appear to walk thru walls and do other miraculous things.

23 posted on 09/15/2018 6:58:44 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Leaning Right

Did they find any evidence for turtles?

It’s turtles all the way down.


24 posted on 09/15/2018 7:26:14 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: Moonman62

Sheldon Cooper yet to weigh in.


25 posted on 09/15/2018 7:26:39 AM PDT by waredbird
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To: LibWhacker

I knew it all along.


26 posted on 09/15/2018 7:51:50 AM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: LibWhacker

Well so much For quantum physics. Just forget about it.


27 posted on 09/15/2018 8:02:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: LibWhacker
Logically, there cannot be a multi-verse, or multiple universes.

Universe means "encompassing everything", which means that, even if there were something out there that looks like our universe (as we see and measure it), then, that other instance of a "universe" is nothing more than, part of the "everything", or the real all-encompassing universe.

What we don't see or understand, can make our imaginations run wild, and so, we come up with dramatic new theories to make our minds run wild to further come up with evem bigger imaginings. Our imaginations create huge numbers of theories, but, many or most will remain theories, and not real universal realities.
28 posted on 09/15/2018 8:26:49 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Moonman62

Read the post. It means the results do not impact spacial dimensions curled up inside the Planck length.


29 posted on 09/15/2018 9:11:21 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Sasparilla

They should stay there


30 posted on 09/15/2018 10:23:57 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: LibWhacker

Theory is a toy of the mind only when facts are found then it truth.Thinking is a good thing unless it’s group thinking.


31 posted on 09/15/2018 10:46:38 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: LibWhacker

32 posted on 09/15/2018 10:48:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: LibWhacker

I don’t have a firm understanding either, but simple common sense dictates that 25 dimensions is bunk.


33 posted on 09/15/2018 4:32:07 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Pride in the USA

Yes, it is. I wish I understood it better, but it’s above my pay grade.


34 posted on 09/16/2018 1:32:23 AM PDT by lonevoice (diagonally parked in a parallel universe)
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To: LibWhacker

IIRC, one of the problems of theories about what goes on at such small levels was the difficulty in testing them.


35 posted on 09/16/2018 2:02:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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