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1 posted on 08/24/2018 4:10:24 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
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To: Ben Mugged

You must not listen to Rush. He has been explaining this for two years.


2 posted on 08/24/2018 4:12:04 PM PDT by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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To: Ben Mugged

I think you’re talking about Cohen.

Manafort was found guilty of 2005 tax shenanigans that had nothing to do with Trump. (And I thought the IRS had no recourse after 7 years! I count 13 years!)


3 posted on 08/24/2018 4:14:07 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Ben Mugged
You seem to be co-mingling the Cohen and Manafort cases.

Maybe refine your question?

4 posted on 08/24/2018 4:14:31 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Ben Mugged

Manafort isn’t being prosecuted for anything related to the women being paid off.....That’s the other guy - Cohen - the poor excuse for an attorney guy!


5 posted on 08/24/2018 4:22:18 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Ben Mugged

You are thinking about Cohen. He is saying he is going to plead guilty to a crime because he has an idiot for an attorney - one Lanny Davis.

Or Mueller has something else on him. Or he is out to get Trump.


7 posted on 08/24/2018 4:23:38 PM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Ben Mugged

This would seem to fall under the same category that ‘not guilty’ is not the same as ‘innocent’.

The attorneys have created a legalese ‘crime’ that both sides agree to. It is more a contractual determination than a criminal one.

Sort of the same as CJ Roberts rewriting a portion of the Obamacare law to make it legal as a tax.

That said, I am also in a quandary as to how he can be charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime crime. It sounds like something out of a Medieval inquisition.


10 posted on 08/24/2018 4:30:41 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Who ACCEPTED the Guilty plea? Was Mueller’s gang of thugs the ‘Judge and the Jury?’


11 posted on 08/24/2018 4:32:48 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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Mueller has a theory as to why the hush payments were illegal as a matter of campaign finance. Even if it is not ultimately a winning theory before the courts, it is enough for now for Mueller to expand his investigation so as to reach into Trump's finances and tax returns. That likely permits Mueller to flyspeck Trump's entire life and compound even minor irregularities into multiple felony charges.

For example, even if the hush payments were legal as a matter of campaign finance, how did Trump account for them on his tax returns and in his business records and communications? Was the money paid from Trump's personal or from his business accounts? And are there any juicy details? Are there any new legal issues raised by the material in the National Enquirer's secret files? What witnesses are there who can be menaced or charged in order to get the testimony needed to nail Trump?

Mueller and his team, with Rod Rosenstein's blessing, have gone far beyond traditional prosecutorial norms. We are now watching Soviet-style justice in action, based on the principle that all one needs to do is point out the man and the state will find the crimes it desires to find.

16 posted on 08/24/2018 5:38:24 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Hello! Crime WAS Committed!

But it was committed by the porn star by extorting money from Trump. Extortion by threat of blackmail is a statutory crime! Paying money to the blackmailer never is. Tucker just made this point a few minutes ago on his TV show.

17 posted on 08/24/2018 5:48:34 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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I’m assume no you actually mean Michael Cohen. Manafort has pled to nothing

Cohen’s lawyer, a Clinton hack, convinced him to do so


19 posted on 08/24/2018 6:08:07 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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They’ll plead guilty to anything the prosecutor can dream up because they’re threatened with destruction of their own and their family’s lives if they don’t go along - as the judge in the Manafort case said, they get them to not only sing, but to compose too - or as someone else said long, long ago, an unscrupulous prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich.......


23 posted on 08/24/2018 6:43:32 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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OK I have a question for our legal eagles. If Trump paying off women using his own money is not illegal, then no crime has been committed. How then can Paul Manafort plead guilty to something that was not illegal?

Well, first of all, it was Cohen, not Manafort.

Second, please see my essay on this topic.

25 posted on 08/24/2018 6:52:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (On future maps, I suggest we remove the word "California" and substitute "Open-Air Asylum".)
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You mean Michael Cohen.

He did it because his Clintonista”lawyer” threw him under the bus for the benefit of the Klintoons and the Dhimmicrap Party.


33 posted on 08/24/2018 8:04:44 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Ben Mugged

If the judge allows it, you can plead guilty to anything.


34 posted on 08/24/2018 8:28:14 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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Cohen pled guilty to a non-crime that he labeled a crime to try to save his sorry ass because he’s been so dirty for so long that he will watch Manafort being wheeled out in a casket before his term is up...Cohen is the ‘composer” they have been searching for - one so vile he’ll say anything they want, and even kill a few kids if need be, to try to save himself.


36 posted on 08/25/2018 4:02:19 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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