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To: bagster

Just an FYI - while certain charges are indeed the sole purvey of military courts - Treason and Espionage are not included in that sole jurisdiction. Sedition and Mutiny are, but not Treason and Espionage.

I think of the 50’s couple that were convicted of espionage in civilian court as an example....brain fart their name escapes me... want to say Rosenberg.


321 posted on 08/22/2018 10:08:31 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: reed13k

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg


333 posted on 08/22/2018 11:57:07 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( I would LOVE to have my old "substandard" insurance back. It didn't mean $24K annual out of pocket)
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To: reed13k
I think of the 50’s couple that were convicted of espionage in civilian court as an example....brain fart their name escapes me... want to say Rosenberg.

The Rosenbergs were convicted in federal civilian court, but back then everyone assumed we had a properly functioning DOJ, FBI, and court systems.

Only an idiot would assume that today (even though most of the commie Democrats would lie about the obvious).

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg Trial and conviction[edit]

David Greenglass's sketch of an implosion-type nuclear weapon design, illustrating what he allegedly gave the Rosenbergs to pass on to the Soviet Union The trial of the Rosenbergs and Sobell began on March 6, 1951, with Judge Irving Kaufman presiding. U.S. Attorney Irving Saypol prosecuted for the Southern District of New York. Criminal defense attorney Emmanuel Bloch represented the Rosenbergs.[26][27] The prosecution's primary witness, David Greenglass, stated that he turned over to Julius Rosenberg (his brother-in-law) a sketch of the cross-section of an implosion-type atom bomb (the "Fat Man" bomb dropped on Nagasaki, Japan, as opposed to a bomb with the "gun method" triggering device as used in the "Little Boy" bomb dropped on Hiroshima).[28] He also testified that his sister Ethel Rosenberg typed notes containing U.S. nuclear secrets in the Rosenberg apartment in September 1945.

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Execution[edit]

Sing Sing Correctional Facility on the Hudson River, where the Rosenbergs were executed in Old Sparky The United States Federal Bureau of Prisons did not operate an electric chair when the Rosenbergs were sentenced to death. They were transferred to New York State's Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining, New York, for execution. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were electrocuted by executioner Joseph Francel at sundown on June 19, 1953.[41][42]

The execution was delayed from the originally scheduled date of June 18, because Supreme Court Associate Justice William O. Douglas had granted a stay of execution on the previous day. That stay resulted from intervention in the case by Fyke Farmer, a Tennessee lawyer whose efforts had previously been scorned by the Rosenbergs' attorney, Emanuel Hirsch Bloch.[43]

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337 posted on 08/23/2018 12:48:35 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: reed13k
Treason and Espionage are not included in that sole jurisdiction. Sedition and Mutiny are, but not Treason and Espionage.

It's my read, and seems to be Q's, that NATIONAL EMERGENCY changes everything, in addition to a scrutiny of the EO's Q cited.

#NotALawyer

#BetTrumpAndQKnowAFew

Bagster


342 posted on 08/23/2018 2:15:22 AM PDT by bagster ( "Even bad men love their mamas.")
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