Greek orthodox priests can marry,They do not have this problem. The Catholic church must cleanse itself of homesexul priests and also allow marriage. If not the church is doomed.
“If not the church is doomed.”
That we know that this will never be the case, is the reason we have no fear.
No, the reason they have this problem is because homosexual men have no business being in the seminary, but have been allowed in for many years. I would flat out ask a potential seminarian, “are you gay?” If yes, then sorry this isn’t for you. Some gay men think joining a seminary will help them overcome their proclivities when in reality, it makes it much worse for them. Others join to indulge their proclivities. The bureaucracy has been far too lenient. If the Church actually started aggressively weeding these people out, watch the press have a field day with how mean and intolerant they are. They will insist to their dying breath the problem isn’t with homosexuality. It damn well is.
That said, the homosexual issue is separate.
These priests don't go after altar boys because they can't get married.
Priests have plenty of opportunity for female companionship but the go after young boys because they are homosexuals.
Agreed!!
Greek Orthodox priests can NOT marry. If you were unmarried at the time of ordination, you remain a lifelong celibate.
However a married man can become a priest, and remain married.
It might seem like a distinction without a difference, but the order is important. If an Orthodox priest is single (or a widower), he cannot seek a wife.
I refuse to dig up dirt on other denominations.
Incidentally, the Penna AG’s report goes back to the 40’s. How many criminal indictments will come out of this?
Zero.
That’s because ~ 100 of the accused have already died, and in any case, the vast bulk of cases go back to the 70’s and 80’s, i.e. past the statute of limitations.
They did find two-— yes two-— from the past 10 years. And they had already been turned over for prosecution by their bishops.
OK, you might say, that’s PA. What’s the picture nationwide?
Nationwide, the percentage of priests who have had credible allegations is 0.0005%.
To be clear: one case is too many cases. If a case is the worst of the worst -— sodomy on a minor-— I think the filthy criminal pervert should be shot. Be he hierarch or lowerarch, it doesn’t matter.
That would be justice.
But concerning The Narrative’s generalization that the Catholic Church as such is a bestiary of boy-rapers -—
Well, that 0.0005% percentage is something decent people would be glad to know.
Greek Orthodox priests can NOT marry. If you were unmarried at the time of ordination, you remain a lifelong celibate.
However a married man can become a priest, and remain married.
It might seem like a distinction without a difference, but the order is important. If an Orthodox priest is single (or a widower), he cannot seek a wife.
I refuse to dig up dirt on other denominations.
Incidentally, the Penna AG’s report goes back to the 40’s. How many criminal indictments will come out of this?
Zero.
That’s because ~ 100 of the accused have already died, and in any case, the vast bulk of cases go back to the 70’s and 80’s, i.e. past the statute of limitations.
They did find two-— yes two-— from the past 10 years. And they had already been turned over for prosecution by their bishops.
OK, you might say, that’s PA. What’s the picture nationwide?
Nationwide, the percentage of priests who have had credible allegations is 0.0005%.
To be clear: one case is too many cases. If a case is the worst of the worst -— sodomy on a minor-— I think the filthy criminal pervert should be shot. Be he hierarch or lowerarch, it doesn’t matter.
That would be justice.
But concerning The Narrative’s generalization that the Catholic Church as such is a bestiary of boy-rapers -—
Well, that 0.0005% percentage is something decent people would be glad to know.
“Greek orthodox priests can marry,”
False. No Greek Orthodox priest can marry. Men marry and then LATER become Greek Orthodox priests. There’s a difference.
“They do not have this problem.”
Yes, they do have this problem.
http://www.snapnetwork.org/me_group_wants_investigation_into_child_molesting_cleric
http://www.celticorthodoxchurch.com/greek_mafia
https://www.pokrov.org/snap-press-release/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/greek-church-lawsuit-1.4448893
The difference is the scope of the problem. Homosexuals have used the Catholic priesthood to hide their inclinations. After all, until very recently, if a young man chose to enter the priesthood people would not say, “Oh, I wonder if he’s gay and hiding it” but “Oh, what dedication to God that this young man wants to forego a wife and family to serve God and the Church”.
Celibacy is NOT the problem. Homosexuality is a huge part of the problem - and the celibate priesthood was used as a convenient cover.
“The Catholic church must cleanse itself of homesexul priests and also allow marriage.”
“homesexual”? Are they attracted to ranchers or split levels? Anyway, I agree that the Church must purge its clerical ranks of homosexuals. I’m also sure that isn’t too easy to do. Child sex abuse cases have dropped tremendously since 2001/2002. What the Church is doing IS WORKING. One of the problems is perception. Many of the cases you hear about or read about are DECADES OLD. The 800 page grand jury report that just came out is overwhelmingly about cases that are decades old. Many of the perpetrators are long since dead. Marriage, in itself, has nothing to do with the abuse - neither does celibacy. If marriage were a cure, then the Episcopal Church would have few or no cases at all. It has plenty.
“If not the church is doomed.”
Impossible. The Church was established by Christ. Nothing can destroy it - not even its members. Protestantism tried and failed. Communism tried and failed. Nazism and fascism tried and failed. Western materialism tried and is failing. Atheism tries and fails. The Church cannot be destroyed. The Church will be here until the end of time. This is not a public relations battle. This is not a law and order battle. This is not a secular issue in itself. This is a spiritual battle and the Church can’t lose it even if every single Catholic in the world tried to make it happen unwittingly or wittingly. That’s how God works. His plan wins.