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To: cpdiii

“Greek orthodox priests can marry,”

False. No Greek Orthodox priest can marry. Men marry and then LATER become Greek Orthodox priests. There’s a difference.

“They do not have this problem.”

Yes, they do have this problem.

http://www.snapnetwork.org/me_group_wants_investigation_into_child_molesting_cleric

http://www.celticorthodoxchurch.com/greek_mafia

https://www.pokrov.org/snap-press-release/

https://www.churchlawandtax.com/cltr/1993/march-april/suit-against-greek-orthodox-priest-dismissed.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/greek-church-lawsuit-1.4448893

The difference is the scope of the problem. Homosexuals have used the Catholic priesthood to hide their inclinations. After all, until very recently, if a young man chose to enter the priesthood people would not say, “Oh, I wonder if he’s gay and hiding it” but “Oh, what dedication to God that this young man wants to forego a wife and family to serve God and the Church”.

Celibacy is NOT the problem. Homosexuality is a huge part of the problem - and the celibate priesthood was used as a convenient cover.

“The Catholic church must cleanse itself of homesexul priests and also allow marriage.”

“homesexual”? Are they attracted to ranchers or split levels? Anyway, I agree that the Church must purge its clerical ranks of homosexuals. I’m also sure that isn’t too easy to do. Child sex abuse cases have dropped tremendously since 2001/2002. What the Church is doing IS WORKING. One of the problems is perception. Many of the cases you hear about or read about are DECADES OLD. The 800 page grand jury report that just came out is overwhelmingly about cases that are decades old. Many of the perpetrators are long since dead. Marriage, in itself, has nothing to do with the abuse - neither does celibacy. If marriage were a cure, then the Episcopal Church would have few or no cases at all. It has plenty.

“If not the church is doomed.”

Impossible. The Church was established by Christ. Nothing can destroy it - not even its members. Protestantism tried and failed. Communism tried and failed. Nazism and fascism tried and failed. Western materialism tried and is failing. Atheism tries and fails. The Church cannot be destroyed. The Church will be here until the end of time. This is not a public relations battle. This is not a law and order battle. This is not a secular issue in itself. This is a spiritual battle and the Church can’t lose it even if every single Catholic in the world tried to make it happen unwittingly or wittingly. That’s how God works. His plan wins.


47 posted on 08/18/2018 4:59:15 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

The true church is Christ’s bride; not a gaudy harlot in bed with Islam and every government on earth. The true bride holds on to the bridegroom and his truth, and won’t give herself to falsehood. The gates of hell run the Roman institution! The true church waits for the soon coming bridegroom!


54 posted on 08/18/2018 8:36:03 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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