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Once Its Greatest Foes, Doctors Are Embracing Single-Payer
Kaiser Health News ^ | 07Aug18 | Shefali Luthra

Posted on 08/09/2018 1:12:57 AM PDT by qaz123

When the American Medical Association — one of the nation’s most powerful health care groups — met in Chicago this June, its medical student caucus seized an opportunity for change.

Though they had tried for years to advance a resolution calling on the organization to drop its decades-long opposition to single-payer health care, this was the first time it got a full hearing. The debate grew heated — older physicians warned their pay would decrease, calling younger advocates naïve to single-payer’s consequences. But this time, by the meeting’s end, the AMA’s older members had agreed to at least study the possibility of changing its stance.

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Because everyone cares what a bunch of radical, liberal, socialist college kids thinks...I digress

1. An feeble attempt to support Bernie's and Ocasio-Cortez's push for $32,000,000,000,000 health care for all. The same system that Bernie's state tried and realized that it wasn't possible. Some libs say it was never implemented. Governor at the time said he couldn't see spending $4.3 billion, in a state with a budget of $4.9 billion. So, basically taxes would have to double to support the program. Yet, so many libs said it could have worked. Liberal policy wonks and academics who have never had to meet a payroll. And when folks started leaving Vermont for New Hampshire or Maine, due to the doubling of their taxes, tax base gets lower, less money, then what? And lets not forget about all the folks that would move there for the free health care but won't be able to pay any taxes.

2. AMA...one of the biggest supporters of Liberals/Academics, etc, in the country.

3. Kaiser...if I'm not mistaken was one of the first HMOs, working with the clinton's that brought on this mess we call healthcare

4. Doctors leaving the field because of obamacare ... https://www.centerforhealthjournalism.org/2014/03/10/whether-it%E2%80%99s-retire-or-flee-doctors-are-leaving-health-care

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/05/the_coming_shortage_of_doctors_can_be_blamed_on_obamacare.html

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/7/doctors-feel-ill-winds-blowing-as-they-look-closel/

1 posted on 08/09/2018 1:12:57 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

Forgot to add...

The Drudge Report absolutely SUCKS


2 posted on 08/09/2018 1:13:31 AM PDT by qaz123
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I can’t blame the doctors for considering this. They stopped working for their patients years ago, and they probably figure they’d rather work for the government than for insurance companies.


3 posted on 08/09/2018 1:29:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: qaz123

They probably want their education covered as a trade-off.


4 posted on 08/09/2018 1:37:18 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: Alberta's Child; qaz123

Last I read the percentage of US doctors that were members of the AMA had been dropping drastically.


5 posted on 08/09/2018 1:38:11 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Jonty30

BINGO!!


6 posted on 08/09/2018 1:39:44 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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Re: Doctors Embrace Single Payer

Probably because half of our doctors are foreign born or female.

It’s really hard to get fired or sued if you are a government employee or contractor.


7 posted on 08/09/2018 2:07:13 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: qaz123
Kaiser is a lying radical Calif left wing rag .
Kaiser was key in ramming Obamacare down out throats .
I have dealt with these nuts .
Socialists to the core .

Drudge promoting this crap is typical of that
Gay nutter mind set .

The Ama is dying .
No one joins anymore and has zero clout anymore too ,

8 posted on 08/09/2018 2:11:34 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves ever ti)
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To: Pontiac

I read somewhere that there are only about 750,000 M.D.s in the U.S. Can that be correct?


9 posted on 08/09/2018 2:17:50 AM PDT by KingLudd
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Re: “They probably want their education covered as a trade-off.”

Little Known Fact...

Almost all USA STEM PHDs and MDs are heavily subsidized, and that includes almost all foreign STEM PHD students, too.

As far as I know, all MD Interns and Residents are fully funded by government.

10 posted on 08/09/2018 2:25:41 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t think working for either is any better. Have a friend, who is a plumber, that got a contract doing some repairs/renovations on all the National Guard armories in our state. He pulled out half way thru the second job. Too much paperwork and waiting to get paid. In other words, government sucks.


11 posted on 08/09/2018 2:37:29 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: zeestephen

As far as I know, all MD Interns and Residents are fully funded by government.

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I have had more than one MD or DO recently in my office and upset over their great student loan burdens. it hits the women particularly hard as they realize their childbearing options have closed.

And the NPs and PAs are also heavily burdened and many are doc-slaves.


12 posted on 08/09/2018 2:38:01 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Jonty30

They can already to that. This is about the new generation of doctors coming up that believe the BS and think the govt can do it all, like they do in Europe, Cuba and Venezuela. What they don’t realize is, everyone’s income is taxes at astronomical rates and whatever pay you do get is more like a stipend. Let them get their entry level jobs and then tax them at the appropriate tax rates, so they can see what it’s like. I bet they won’t be too fond of their single-payer after a little while.


13 posted on 08/09/2018 2:39:51 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Pontiac

I don’t think that’s hard to believe. Doctors are capitalists.


14 posted on 08/09/2018 2:40:44 AM PDT by qaz123
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I have a lot of doctor friends. ALL of them fought hard against Obamacare in their own ways. The last thing any of these doctors would want is single payer. Especially in California.


15 posted on 08/09/2018 2:46:49 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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I don’t doubt it, one bit. My mom was an office manager for an Old School, Internist. Kind of guy that made house calls with one of those black doctors kits, that folded open. She has said that before the clintons and the push for HMOs, etc, things were very easy, people paid out of pocket for the routine visits and major medical took care of the rest. All gone, thanks to greed, corrupt politicians, lobbyists and government intervention.

All that paperwork just adds more people to their payrolls. My chiropractor is actually closed one day a week, just so they can get caught up on paperwork for the insurance companies.


16 posted on 08/09/2018 3:00:43 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

When Obamacare was first passed the doctor I’d been going to for a 13 years was faced with the decision to give up practicing medicine or give up the dozen clinics he owned. Obamacare would not allow both. he kept and managed his dozen clinics and stopped practicing medicine. I had to find another doctor.


17 posted on 08/09/2018 3:06:24 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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Single payer will mean Medicaid for all. Not Medicare (which has its own problems). Politically fashionable conditions will get preferred treatment. Everything else will be rationed with increasing severity. The wealthy will go abroad for timely care. The open question is how the political class will carve out a special high quality system for itself, because the nomenklatura will not accept the shabbiness imposed on the rest of us.


18 posted on 08/09/2018 3:12:02 AM PDT by sphinx
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Good old left wing Kaiser spinning to push socialism .
Its not Doctors its some lefty Medical students
pushing this crap and I bet there Foreigners too.
At UCDavis , I saw a tiny group of Foreign medical students trying to push this crap . Their classmates were not interested.
Lefty Kaiser is pushing these tiny group of nutters case .

Its Kaiser astroturfing just like they did for Obamacare.

19 posted on 08/09/2018 3:12:50 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves ever ti)
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When the American Medical Association — one of the nation’s most powerful health care groups — met in Chicago this June, its medical student caucus seized an opportunity for change.

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Medical students, not doctors.

The headline is Fake News.


20 posted on 08/09/2018 3:14:13 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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