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Posted on 08/05/2018 4:19:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin
How many friends of Hillary aboard?
Thanks.
It does look like he stalled or spun the aircraft and didn’t have enough altitude to recover.
A few articles mention he declared an emergency. Perhaps that would explain his unusual approach path.
I haven’t flown a twin but if he was in pattern and was turning and low wing engine died, he’d have a hard time.
That is an easy route to a stall/spin.
To me, all the signs are fuel exhaustion.
I usually take off my dirt strip with half tanks and fill up at airport 3 miles away, but at 100 degrees or less it is no problem, I haven’t tried when it is 110-120 with full tanks and I don’t plan on ever trying.
...and John Denver. That was the ultimate in fuel mismanagement.
I didn’t know fuel mismanagement is the leading cause of private plane crashes. That is really surprising to me.
Many decades ago, a company in Chile hired a small charter private plane to bring me to a remote plant for some service work. We were flying into the Copiapo Desert and there was a wall of really bad weather in front of us as far as you could see east-west.I was never so thankful as when that prudent pilot put us down at a small airport in the desert. We waited a couple hours, took off again, reconnoitered a while, and landed again. He then put me on a bus for the rest of the trip. I’m still thankful for his prudence.
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As long as we’re speculating, I’m guessing with the passenger load he was carrying and the temps at departure, he put on just enough fuel for the trip in order to take off. Ran out of fuel in the pattern at John Wayne and hoped against hope that he had enough altitude to make it to the runway, and never considered landing on a busy street. He stalled and it was over.
Missed the airport by “this much.” A tragedy.
Saw the tape. Likely lost one engine, stalled, spun, death. Gotta practice engine-out procedures.
One year while I was instructing, a rich jerk taxed his twin (Beech Dutches) out of the hangar (yikes), parked it at the pumps, left both engines running while he left the airplane to fill-up on fuel (yikes!yikes!!). Guy continued to make really stupid mistakes but never got hurt.
We at I69, in Batavia Ohio, have witnessed several dumb mistakes lately.
I mentioned one earlier in this post.
Another happened a month or two ago. The owner of a beautiful 1947 Lunscombe tail dragger went to leave the Sporty’s Pilot Shop transient tie up area. Pulled the wheel chocks and then hand cranked the prop.
Unfortunately, the throttle was wide open! The plane went around and around and around in a 75’ circle. Just missing a Bonanza over and over.
The owner chased after it until he lost a finger when it got caught in the elevator and he tripped.
80 year old Chairman of Sporty’s, Hal Shevers, ended up chasing after it with a Chevy Tahoe then upset it to get it to stop!
Was quite a show!
There’s something strange about Navid Hakini, one of the passengers: some articles list them all as realtors and some articles say he went by the name Navid Izadi and was a DJ. Three of the passengers were well known in the Persian community.
::Yeah, but you fly into 22L as GA at SNA.::
I don’t think there is a 22L at SNA...
We had a flight operation there for 25 years until we moved out of state 12 years ago. Surprised to see on google maps runway designations have changed from 19 to 20 and 1 to 2. Did they shift the ground at the airport or what?
Forget I asked - printing for my husband..
A friend of mine was flying cross country in his Bonanza at night. He entered the frequency of the VOR near his destination airport and flew toward it. After an unusually long time, the needle on the VOR swung around and he started looking for his airport but he could’nt find it. After some head scratching, he realized he flew to a different VOR with the same frequency as his destination VOR. He was able to limp back to his home airport on fumes and a puckered rear end.
Sorry, I meant 20L, not 22L.
No problem - since we’ve been gone from there for 12 years, the change in runway designation was definitely a surprise to us. Do you fly out of OC? Miss it - it was pretty much our home for a lot of years. May be why my husband can’t hear a thing today! Well, that and the old OC Gun Range.
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