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Interesting story. Sounds like they stole the painting and kept it for whatever reason. Maybe they liked it? The painting is not to my taste but my daughter says' I have no taste.
1 posted on 08/05/2018 9:50:52 AM PDT by BBell
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“Woman-Ochre” by Willem de Kooning. (Courtesy of University of Arizona Museum of Art)

2 posted on 08/05/2018 9:51:38 AM PDT by BBell
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I will vouch for myself....I have no art taste, but this is something that I could paint with a half-bottle of rum in my system. How it’s worth $100-million is a mystery to me.

My gut feeling is that they had viewed the tasteless art 30 years ago, and just thought for a joke....they’d steal it. They obviously knew the value.


6 posted on 08/05/2018 9:56:42 AM PDT by pepsionice
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The painting is hideous. These folks should receive posthumous honors for doing the world a favor by keeping this monstrosity out of sight.

Seriously, though, considering their travel budget and cash net worth, they may have had a side 'business' of art theft. Perhaps they bit off more than they could chew with the de Kooning and found it too hot to fence.
14 posted on 08/05/2018 10:08:55 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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Art-lovers? As in, saving the world from that anti-art horror?


15 posted on 08/05/2018 10:09:41 AM PDT by dangus
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How big is this painting? I know his work pretty well and often those pieces are pretty big. You just can’t put it in your purse and walk off. So that part of the story confuses me.

It’s not a bad de Kooning: action painting, guys. Yes, and the hooters are obvious. He worked along with Pollock. There is a good deal of energy and complexity of space in these works, but, yes, it helps to take a course in modern art to really understand it (if not necessarily like it).


17 posted on 08/05/2018 10:10:48 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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I'm going to ask the New Mexico police to thoroughly search that house. Because my favorite painting went missing years ago. Maybe it's there too.


19 posted on 08/05/2018 10:13:44 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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You cretins have no respect for art nor do any of you know true beauty. It's just like you knuckle dragging cretins to disparage the vision and spirit displayed by great artists to fill the world with beauty and serenity!

/sarcasm

20 posted on 08/05/2018 10:13:58 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
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For $160 million who needs taste.


22 posted on 08/05/2018 10:15:49 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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It could very well have been stolen before and left to the museum. Such stories are not uncommon.

For example, a Holocaust-surviving couple in their nineties residing in San Diego just 10 years ago were called by their son in NYC, Their son had received a call from a friend who was traveling in Spain and was in Madrid looking at tourist sites. This friend had gone into the Museo Nacional Thyssen-Bornemisza where there was a new exhibit of impressionist paintings that had never been exhibited before. The friend called the son in NYC and said “you’re not going to believe what I saw!”.

When the elderly couple was driven out of Germany into a camp for Jews, their apartment was ransacked by Nazis and the artwork they had collected was taken. One of the pieces of art was a masterpiece by Pizarro. The elderly couple had kept photos of all their artwork. They had submitted copies of the photos years before to the German government for recovery.

The friend had seen the photos kept by the family and in the Madrid museum, he saw the Pizarro worth then about $50 million.

Heine Thyssen was a German-Swiss shipping magnate whose art collection hidden away in Lucerne rivaled that of Queen Elizabeth’s. The Pizarro had come from his estate left to his gold-digger wife Baroness Tita who was Miss Spain in 1961.

In the art world, there are a lot of ‘title’ issues. Just because a piece hangs in a museum, it does not mean title is clean.

If I was reporting the background story on this, I would definitely consider investigating along these lines.


23 posted on 08/05/2018 10:16:04 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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Might have been their first (or possibly last) job and they wanted a souvenir.

Have to say I would have gone for a Monet or a Sargent but to each their own.

30 posted on 08/05/2018 10:21:10 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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Yet they somehow managed to travel to 140 countries and all seven continents, documenting their trips with tens of thousands of photos.

The FBI or Interpol should examine the documentation of all their trips to see if any of them correspond to any art thefts in the respective countries they visited.

They obviously know art since they kept the painting rather than put it up for sale......

There has to be a black market for stolen artifacts but I'll be dared if I know how to go about entering it to sell something.

35 posted on 08/05/2018 10:32:51 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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I read of a man who had an unsigned DeKooning painting worth several hundred thousand dollars.

When he wanted to sell it, an art appraiser examined it and concluded it was NOT a DeKoong.

So, it went from a high price piece of art to only the value of the paint and canvas, which proves it is not the quality of the painting, it is the artist who did the painting that gives it value.

Reminds me of Picasso who declared one of his own paintings to be a fake. “I can paint a fake Picasso as well as anyone!”-Picasso


52 posted on 08/05/2018 11:57:44 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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FTA: Something else doesn’t add up. Jerry and Rita Alter worked in public schools for most of their careers. Yet they somehow managed to travel to 140 countries and all seven continents, documenting their trips with tens of thousands of photos. they had more than a million dollars in their bank account They were thieves. They did not just steal that painting.
54 posted on 08/05/2018 12:29:22 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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""Who knows?" said Doc. "Who knows what lies deep in any man's mind? Who knows what any man wants?"
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71 posted on 08/05/2018 2:01:59 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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The painting is not to my taste

The painting is butt-ugly.

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90 posted on 08/06/2018 4:13:59 PM PDT by CedarDave (DJT: "Rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace than risk peace in the pursuit of politics.")
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Did the museum a favor getting that crap out.


93 posted on 08/06/2018 10:52:27 PM PDT by anton
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