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Windows 10 turns three years old today: Here's how it's evolved
NeoWin ^ | Jul 29, 2018 | Rich Woods

Posted on 08/01/2018 7:17:07 PM PDT by dayglored

On September 30, 2014, Microsoft announced Windows 10, thus changing the firm's operating system as we know it. Windows was going to be serviced, rather than being refreshed every few years. We've learned since then that this means biannual feature updates, along with monthly (sometimes more often) cumulative updates.

Indeed, Microsoft was done competing with itself with new versions of Windows. On July 29, 2015, Windows 10 launched, and it was promised that there would never be a Windows 11. Here we are, exactly three years later, when we would normally see the next version of Microsoft's flagship OS.

Since then, there have been five feature updates, including versions 1511, 1607 (the Anniversary Update), 1703 (the Creators Update), 1709 (the Fall Creators Update), and 1803 (the April 2018 Update). Much has changed, and a lot of the OS looks completely different from when it started out.

I decided to take a look back, comparing the original version (1507) to version 1803. Most of the changes are good, although some aren't. A ton of features have been added, such as the Windows Subsystem for Linux, Windows Ink, and more.

(Excerpt) Read more at neowin.net ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: dayglored

I still miss Windows XP.


61 posted on 08/02/2018 3:28:26 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: dayglored

Windows 10 has been getting better - especially in the interface department.<p.Mine runs and I can do what I want with it - been a long time since I dissected every part of an OS to see what I could make it do.


62 posted on 08/02/2018 3:59:56 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: upchuck

I work for the Navy. NMCI upgraded to 10. One fourth of the computers in my code CRASHED during the upgrade. I was lucky.

But for some reason, EVERY DAY at 1300 my computer slows down to tortoise speed for about half an hour.


63 posted on 08/02/2018 4:20:07 AM PDT by fredhead (Duty, Honor, Country.....Honor, Courage, Commitment)
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To: dayglored

My favorite thing about Windows 10 is the sure knowledge that when I retire in a few years, I’ll never have to restore the beast again.


64 posted on 08/02/2018 6:04:34 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: dayglored

Good old Ultrix. No compiler. Either use VI or Macro-11 Assembler.

I actually went to DEC’s school in Mass. to learn both.

I had several PDP 11/70’s running it. BUT no GUI. All we had was VT-52’s and a DEC Writer form feed paper terminal!


65 posted on 08/02/2018 6:22:02 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (MAGAMarchOnWashington.com)
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To: dayglored
So how about the things we DO like about Win10?

This will be the shortest thread in Freeper history! /sarcasm

66 posted on 08/02/2018 6:25:43 AM PDT by Bull Man
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To: fredhead
But for some reason, EVERY DAY at 1300 my computer slows down to tortoise speed for about half an hour.

If you run the Win 10 equivalent of the Win 7 Resource Monitor, what resources does it show being used?

I suspect MSFT may be accessing your computer at that time for updates, bug fixes, etc.

67 posted on 08/02/2018 8:15:37 AM PDT by upchuck (As we head to the midterms, please (re)read Confessions of Congressman X - tinyurl.com/congressmanx)
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To: George from New England

Would like to know what you do about securing XP. But I’m with you on XP being the best. I have a hard drive that is a tri-boot with XP, 7 & 10, though I use 7 99% of the time.


68 posted on 08/02/2018 9:12:39 AM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: dayglored
So how about the things we DO like about Win10?
One little thing I like is how when I am on an interesting web page on my Android cell phone, I can make it pop up in Edge on the Windows 10 PC easily, without sending myself the URL in some way.
69 posted on 08/02/2018 10:09:14 AM PDT by cartan
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To: upchuck; fredhead; dayglored
But for some reason, EVERY DAY at 1300 my computer slows down to tortoise speed for about half an hour. Fredhead

I suspect MSFT may be accessing your computer at that time for updates, bug fixes, etc. Upchuck

I was trying to stay out of this conversation because of Dayglored's request that we keep it nice and for a change mention the things we like about Windows 10. Microsoft has put a lot of effort and billions of dollars into Windows 10 for all of our benefit. And basically Windows 10 works well, it supports our new hardware, it does a lot and provides a secure platform for computer applications and programs that we depend on.

But the problem you mention is one of the things that I dislike the most about Windows 10... Processor and memory usage suddenly go through the roof, all the fans come on and the computer becomes nearly unusable for intermittent and unpredictable amounts of time. It can be especially annoying when you are out and about and low on battery power. When one spends time investigating in fear that malware or some foreign presence is hijacking the computer... it almost always comes back to Microsoft.

When I was using my first home computer a TI99-4a in 1981 I could not have imagined this type of scenario. I was the master of that little console and it's "expansion box". I was the master of all my later computers and operating systems... up to Windows 7... when Microsoft first started trying to force us to migrate to Windows 10. Satya Narayana Nadella sent the message loud and clear, "Microsoft is the master of your computer! The operating system is a service and you are just along for the ride. Complain all you want, because we don't give a sh!t!!!"

At first many of us were able to fight this forced migration with third party apps such as "Never 10" etc... and all the way up to trying various builds of Linux. But many of the "apps and programs" I depend on and even new hardware now run well only on machines with Windows 10.

After going through all of that I ended up upgrading nearly all of our licenses to "pro" to try and get back a little more control over these annoying processes... But it is very clear that Microsoft is still very much in control. With almost every new service update you find some new "added feature" that you have to figure out how to disable. How about all the notifications that are built into the operating system that work through the "Edge Browser", so that when you are working on some sort of document and not even using your internet browser... some pop-up comes up trying to sell you something or worse... some anti-Trump Propaganda. Back to the "control panel" to disable all notifications...

I was a Microsoft booster from about MS-DOS 2.1 which we used in the "PCs" in the computer lab that I had a work study job in. This continued all the way to Windows 7. I experimented with plenty of other operating systems and computers, but for actual work it was always Microsoft. And I was very grateful to Microsoft for providing a stable no nonsense platform.

I got my wife and my 8" Amazon Fire Tablets for something like $40 each... probably less than it cost to produce them so I expect Jeff Bezos and company to annoy me with nonsense trying to sell me stuff and influence my opinion. But we paid hundreds of dollars for our laptops and then even more to upgrade the operating systems and we still get pestered with this never ending crap.

70 posted on 08/02/2018 10:19:28 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: dayglored
The upgrade ate my WIFI ...

I wish I were back in school and could use that as an excuse for why I didn't do my homework ...

71 posted on 08/02/2018 10:25:34 AM PDT by x
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To: Alas Babylon!
> Good old Ultrix. No compiler. Either use VI or Macro-11 Assembler. I actually went to DEC’s school in Mass. to learn both. I had several PDP 11/70’s running it. BUT no GUI. All we had was VT-52’s and a DEC Writer form feed paper terminal!

Yeah, I lucked out. The 3100 had a lovely high-res (for those days) graphics CRT, and I could use Emacs in addition to vi. I'd gotten used to black-on-white with Macintoshes, but commandline work in a black-on-white terminal session was a revelation. I've stuck with that ever since (first thing I do on a fresh Windows install is set CMD for black-on-white).

Last time I used a VT-52 was probably 1980; by then we were switching to VT-100s. Ah, the days of EDT "Gold-Key" editing on a VT-100.

Warped me for life. :-)

72 posted on 08/02/2018 11:55:09 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Bull Man
>> So how about the things we DO like about Win10?

> This will be the shortest thread in Freeper history! /sarcasm

Yeah, I worried about that too, but it seems it worked out okay.

73 posted on 08/02/2018 12:13:21 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: fireman15
Satya Narayana Nadella sent the message loud and clear, "Microsoft is the master of your computer! The operating system is a service and you are just along for the ride. Complain all you want, because we don't give a sh!t!!!"

That line of thinking is precisely why I'm running Win 7 and will never willingly migrate to Win 10. It's MY computer, it's MY Internet connection. I get very upset, understandably I think, when someone comes along and decides what's gonna happen with my computer.

If for some reason in the future I have to give up Win 7, I will happily go to Linux.

74 posted on 08/02/2018 12:59:10 PM PDT by upchuck (As we head to the midterms, please (re)read Confessions of Congressman X - tinyurl.com/congressmanx)
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To: fireman15
> Microsoft has put a lot of effort and billions of dollars into Windows 10 for all of our benefit. And basically Windows 10 works well, it supports our new hardware, it does a lot and provides a secure platform for computer applications and programs that we depend on.

I'd second all of that. With the possible exception of "for all of our benefit". [tinfoil_hat] I suspect it was mostly for the benefit of their marketing partners and the government. [/tinfoil_hat]

Win10 runs great, under the hood. I'd like to use it more. In fact I'd even switch my allegiance from Win7 to Win10, if they would only:

  1. Allow use of a true Win7 theme (graphical interface and desktop elements).

    It's entirely possible. They just refuse to do it. Total arrogance.

  2. Allow use of complete settings dialogs like in previous OS editions.

    Put the d@mn settings back in the dialogs, under "Advanced" if they want. It's not like the options were taken out of the Registry. They were just made unavailable through the dialogs. Total arrogance.

That's it. I'd become a big Win10 fan.

Sure, I'd rather they didn't push the updates, but I can tolerate them. And I'd rather not have to disable their spyware/telemetry settings again every time they push an update. But those things are a minor annoyance compared to having a GUI that is simply too stupid and unusable to do anything other than launch Microsoft Office.

But that's what Windows has become. It's no longer an operating system as we have defined operating systems for 50 years. It's just another "platform" for Microsoft's applications, more and more of which are cloud-based anyway. In another update or two, it'll be indistinguishable from Chrome-OS on a Google ChromeBook.

Oh well, sic transit.

75 posted on 08/02/2018 1:17:57 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: upchuck
Here's what you do my friend:

Go to Search area in the taskbar and type taskschd.msc. Click on the Task Scheduler in the Best Match area of the context menu.

Expand the window. Not the Active Tasks detail pane in the lower middle of the screen. Double-click each and it will open that task in the console tree. Check the Triggers and Actions of that task. Change the time when they run or cannot run.

For example, my QueueReporting Task has a trigger that runs “At 11:27 AM at7/23/2018 - After triggered, repeat every half hour.”

Well, I don't need it to do that and don't remember what I was doing on that date but I don't want to run every half hour so I disabled that. So now it doesn't run except after system startup. If I wanted to I could also just turn off completely by disabling all the triggers.

In your case, just disable those tasks you don't need or any that run at 1300 every day or change the time to say 0200.

BTW, since I mentioned the msc shortcut for Task Scheduler, here is a list of all the msc shortcuts (click here) .

76 posted on 08/02/2018 1:47:09 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (MAGAMarchOnWashington.com)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Not the Active should be NOTE the Active...


77 posted on 08/02/2018 1:48:51 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (MAGAMarchOnWashington.com)
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To: dayglored

All my PC/ tablet devices are on latest Win 10, and I’m thrilled by the stability, consistency, and fluidity of the system. Timeline is great, especially across devices, Cortana works, Edge works, File History works, OneDrive works, Defender works, and Office 365 is brilliant.

All good!!


78 posted on 08/02/2018 4:20:38 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: dayglored
I suspect it was mostly for the benefit of their marketing partners and the government.

I was trying to be nice... I suppose that Microsoft was hoping to beat Apple to a trillion dollars in market valuation. (Too late as of this afternoon.) Under Satya Narayana Nadella’s leadership Microsoft's stock price has more than doubled in the last few years, but all this nickel and diming with annoyances such as popups, and other “notifications” trying to get you to buy stuff has caused the experience to be degraded somewhat.

The thing that amazes me the most is that the first XP clone that I put together decades ago was a very efficient tool with its 8088 processor running at 4.77 MHz, 640KBs of RAM, ultra-deluxe EGA monitor, and hooked up to a dot matrix printer. I used DOS, and a shareware menu system to run Lotus 123, Word Perfect and other programs on two 5 1/4” floppys with no hard drive. It was a much less frustrating experience than computing today and I was in general more productive than I am these days. I still have it in a closet.

79 posted on 08/02/2018 5:11:08 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15; Alas Babylon!

fireman15, Alas Babylon! has some helpful tips at #76.


80 posted on 08/02/2018 5:31:40 PM PDT by upchuck (As we head to the midterms, please (re)read Confessions of Congressman X - tinyurl.com/congressmanx)
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