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If Trump thinks he can get more than 3% economic growth, he's dreaming (LA Times 5/19/2017)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 5/19/2017 | MICHAEL HILTZIK

Posted on 07/27/2018 5:43:25 PM PDT by Beave Meister

With the political world deeply focused on the question of whether the Trump administration comprises a gang of Russian pawns, less attention has been devoted to more mundane questions, such as what ever happened to Trump's economic policy?

As it happens, economists are keeping their eye on that ball, and their conclusion is that it's in a bad way. More specifically, they recognize that Trump's policy is aimed heavily at achieving annual economic growth of more than 3%.

During the presidential campaign, Trump promised growth of 3.5% a year, and sometimes even 4%. There's no disagreement that a sustained growth rate of this magnitude would be a significant achievement. Over the past decade, the economy has grown at an average of about 2% a year. The Congressional Budget Office forecasts an annual average of about 1.9% well into the next decade.

The U.S. hasn't had sustained real annual growth (that is, over inflation) of better than 3% since the 1990s, with a brief spurt in 2004 and 2005. Making up the difference from 2% to more than 3% looks like a pipe dream.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
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To: Da Coyote

The nice thing about President Trump is he’s showing EVERYONE how wrong the journalists are, every single day.


21 posted on 07/27/2018 6:28:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: Beave Meister

It’s not over until Krugman leaps out of a high rise window.


22 posted on 07/27/2018 6:30:22 PM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Phil DiBasquette

The AP’s Jonathan Lemire reacted to the 4.1% GDP Growth Rate this morning on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” by saying it will have a huge impact on Trump’s Re-election chances, but chimed in – “We certainly have plenty of time for it to slow down.”


23 posted on 07/27/2018 6:32:03 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Beave Meister
They are grasping at straws trying to make the economy look bad. People will not be fooled, and some will be turned off.

People judge the economy by their own lives, not obfuscation in a newspaper.

24 posted on 07/27/2018 6:32:27 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm)
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To: Beave Meister
If Trump thinks he can get more than 3% economic growth, he's dreaming

Yes, a man who dreams dreams and makes them come true. Right Mr. Hiltzik? What do you say now? I believe it would be, "There's no disagreement that a sustained growth rate of this magnitude would be a significant achievement."

Yes, that's right. Are you going to write an article about this "significant achievement?" C'mon! You can do it!

25 posted on 07/27/2018 6:32:32 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ('Kill'-google,TWITR,FACEBK,WaPo,Hollywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: going hot

Krugman is looking even more bug-eyed and irritable these days. He keeps writing end of the world predictions.


26 posted on 07/27/2018 6:36:52 PM PDT by alrea
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To: Beave Meister

Well, he should only get credit for 2.8%, while Obama gets credit for the other 1.3%. Without Obama’s contributions, Trump would still not have gotten over 3% growth. Obama’s average for his 8 years was a bit over 1% growth, so, let’s not take that away from him. ;)

So, the LA Times is right. Kinda.

(I went back to my liberal logic to arrive that that bit of analysis above). ;)


27 posted on 07/27/2018 6:44:31 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Beave Meister

Not there yet. The point was to get a >3% year, not a quarter.
So far it’s just a half-year in, two quarters to go, and growth rate needs to average just under 3% for those quarters.

Chances are good, at this point, but not certain.


28 posted on 07/27/2018 6:45:36 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Beave Meister

Wow. How wrong can you be and still have a job? Uh oh! It’s because YOU’RE A LEFTIST!!!

Hey dumbass! Remember that Obama said these high-paying jobs are never coming back. IT’S BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T WANT THEM TO COME BACK!!!


29 posted on 07/27/2018 7:03:34 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (All Democrats have to offer is violence, intolerance, divisiveness and hatred.)
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To: Beave Meister

“The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”


30 posted on 07/27/2018 7:12:37 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Beave Meister

Trump may not be able to deliver on all of his campaign promises, but by doggies he doesn’t give up easily. And he actually never gives up. He just wants to fire his next round. Rinos before him didn’t even try.


31 posted on 07/27/2018 7:15:01 PM PDT by Terry Mross (On some threads it's best to go jst inraight to the comments.)
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To: Beave Meister

Nice, the LA Slimes has there version of Paul “always wrong” Krugman.


32 posted on 07/27/2018 7:24:14 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Beave Meister
There's no disagreement that a sustained growth rate of this magnitude would be a significant achievement [by President Trump].

Therefore, the Propaganda Media will assiduously avoid the topic like the plague...

33 posted on 07/27/2018 7:29:03 PM PDT by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: Beave Meister

They Like Dreamin’.


34 posted on 07/27/2018 7:29:49 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Beave Meister
How can anyone in their right mind listen to this fool seriously????


35 posted on 07/27/2018 7:42:44 PM PDT by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: budj

Krugman is a politician, not an economist.


36 posted on 07/27/2018 7:43:58 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Beave Meister
Underlines mine. During the presidential campaign, Trump promised growth of 3.5% a year, and sometimes even 4%. There's no disagreement that a sustained growth rate of this magnitude would be a significant achievement.

They must be choking on these lines now, but outside of this site, who will remind them?

37 posted on 07/27/2018 7:47:49 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: alrea

he (small H ) does that all the time R’s are in office.


38 posted on 07/27/2018 8:52:24 PM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Big Red Badger; Beave Meister
Big Red Badger wrote:

Hey Mr. HILTZIK.... Funny guy... Now Suck One!

To be fair, Hiltzik was talking about sustained growth. In the excerpt above, he said:

The U.S. hasn't had sustained real annual growth (that is, over inflation) of better than 3% since the 1990s, with a brief spurt in 2004 and 2005. Making up the difference from 2% to more than 3% looks like a pipe dream.

The following graph shows GDP growth under Obama and Trump:

GDP Growth under Obama and Trump: 2008-2018q2

The numbers can be seen at http://econdataus.com/gdp_growth_18q2.html. As can be seen, Trump has not yet achieved GDP growth of 3 percent over 4 consecutive quarters. Even the last four quarters, including the current one with 4.1% annualized growth, had a growth of just 2.8 percent.

39 posted on 07/27/2018 10:45:39 PM PDT by remember
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To: remember

To be Fair,,,


40 posted on 07/28/2018 3:43:40 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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