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Tesla tumbles on report that it asked suppliers for refunds
msn.com ^ | 7/23/2018 | MSN.com

Posted on 07/23/2018 3:20:35 PM PDT by Signalman

Shares of Tesla were down 4 percent Monday after falling more than 6 percent on a report that the electric car maker has turned to some suppliers for a refund of previously made payments in a bid to turn a profit.

Tesla has asked some suppliers to refund money it has paid since 2016, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday, citing a memo.

The memo, which the paper said was sent by a global supply manager, described the request as essential to Tesla's continued operation and characterized it as an investment in the car company to continue the long-term growth between both players.

Tesla could not be immediately reached for comment, although the WSJ quoted the company as confirming it is seeking price reductions for projects, some of which date back to 2016.

CEO Elon Musk also tweeted: "Only costs that actually apply to Q3 & beyond will be counted. It would not be correct to apply historical cost savings to current quarter."

"Automakers often have brutal pricing demands on suppliers for future work, but retroactive rebates is not something we hear much about, and this is troubling for us to hear," David Whiston, an analyst with brokerage Morningstar wrote in a note to clients.

Tesla has been burning through cash as it ramps up production of its Model 3 sedan. While Musk has said the company does not need to raise cash this year, several analysts have predicted that the electric car maker would need to raise capital soon.

Tesla had about $3.2 billion in cash as of the first quarter ended March 31, after spending about $1 billion in the quarter.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automakers; refunds; tesla
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1 posted on 07/23/2018 3:20:35 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

With no taxpayer funds the company will be done


2 posted on 07/23/2018 3:22:48 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Signalman

HaHa, now he’s operating like a real automotive company.


3 posted on 07/23/2018 3:26:14 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: Signalman

Ta Ta, Elon.


4 posted on 07/23/2018 3:26:50 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Signalman

Tick, tick, tick ...


5 posted on 07/23/2018 3:27:16 PM PDT by KevinB (I do not care for that Obama fellow.)
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To: Signalman

I think Elon should have stuck with rockets...


6 posted on 07/23/2018 3:29:11 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Signalman

“Automakers often have brutal pricing demands on suppliers for future work, but retroactive rebates is not something we hear much about, and this is troubling for us to hear,” David Whiston, an analyst with brokerage Morningstar wrote in a note to clients.

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The claim that this is a “retroactive rebate” appears to be false news by the WSJ.


7 posted on 07/23/2018 3:30:18 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: butlerweave

He is a genius and legend. In his own mind.


8 posted on 07/23/2018 3:30:33 PM PDT by cp124 (FUGOPe)
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To: apillar

How many people does your car company employ?


9 posted on 07/23/2018 3:31:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Red Badger

ping


10 posted on 07/23/2018 3:31:47 PM PDT by Clay Moore (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people)
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To: Moonman62

Would that number include those paid using taxpayer provided funds?


11 posted on 07/23/2018 3:34:32 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: butlerweave

Tesla was always doomed. As long as it was a niche product it could survive charging premiums for fan boys and early adopters... however if pure electric ever goes mainstream they will never be able to produce at a level with margin that they won’t be eaten alive by the major players.

If Musk’s goal is to push electric mainstream he may end up being successful, but as a business venture, Tesla always had a limited shelf life.


12 posted on 07/23/2018 3:36:35 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Signalman

Elon Musk is doing awesome stuff! Why are some people here so down on him?

Yes he’s gotten government money to do stuff... Do you expect him NOT TO take advantage of everything he can?

He’s employing thousands of workers, and his employees seem to love him.


14 posted on 07/23/2018 3:41:08 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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in the end a tesla is nothing more than a vehicle with a bunch of batteries packed underneath it. I’ve never understood what’s so technologically fascinating about it. I would imagine if you pack enough double A’s together you could get an electric engine to turn.

Batteries will continue to become smaller, lighter, and more efficient over time. Battery-powered cars will constantly be playing catch up to that reality. Today’s tesla is tomorrow’s inefficient dinosaur.


15 posted on 07/23/2018 3:42:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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To: Mr. K

Yes he’s gotten government money to do stuff... Do you expect him NOT TO take advantage of everything he can?

ok fine. Let’s see what happens now that the govt training wheels have come off.


16 posted on 07/23/2018 3:44:33 PM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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To: Signalman

Tesla is doomed because the socialists are out of power.

Timing is everything.


17 posted on 07/23/2018 3:45:20 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: HamiltonJay

Jaguar I-Pace, Audi E-Tron, Porsche Taycan and some other EVs that are direct Tesla rivals are coming on the market in the next months. Very prestigious, available at local dealers from well-capitalized, established manufacturers. Not good for Tesla outlook.


18 posted on 07/23/2018 3:46:20 PM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Signalman

Government picking winners and losers since 1860.


19 posted on 07/23/2018 3:50:23 PM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: SoConPubbie

Would that number include those paid using taxpayer provided funds?

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How many people does Tesla employ using taxpayer funds?


20 posted on 07/23/2018 3:51:30 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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