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To: golux
With regard to your comment (a very "liberal" idea, by the way, that people who who do not agree with you 'know nothing about so-and-so,') let us look at a film from approximately the same era that also had an influence on fashion, namely with regard to trench-coats and a sort of romantic interpretation of noir.

Dates aside, somewhere between Casablanca and Sellers' delight The Party, there is Breakfast.


I refer in this case though there are others to CASABLANCA. Here is a not particularly great movie but one which is delightfully complex, has outstanding visual elements, and includes very complex interpretations of "right and wrong," "love and hate," loyalty, Nazis vs French, etc.

CASABLANCA is not half the film GILDA is, but it is somehow twenty times the film "Breakfast" is.

I will, in fact, challenge any of the artsy forties on this forum to watch Breakfast all the way through, after 10pm on a weekday, without falling asleep.


97 posted on 07/12/2018 8:24:59 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux
There is NO comparison between CASABLANCA and BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S! One is a WAR MOVIE, made in 1942, at the height of WW II and is a SERIOUS film. The other is a light romantic comedy, made in PEACETIME ( and written slightly earlier than the movie ), at the height of American prosperity and good feelings.

THE PARTY is a POS movie; unfunny, and one of Edward's and Seller's BIGGEST bombs!

Re trench coats...it was the LITTLE BLACK DRESS, not a trench coat that BAT set a trend for. And the headscarf too, but that already WAS a "TREND", prior to that movie.

It was actually the James Bond movies that spurred an interest in BURBERRY TRENCH COATS and then, for men; not women!

I've watched BAT after 10:00PM and NEVER fallen asleep to it. But hey...if it puts you to sleep and watch it...it's better than you taking a sleeping pill.

102 posted on 07/12/2018 9:02:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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You can’t seem to get anything right about movies. Casablanca is a GREAT movie although where you get the idea it is a noir is beyond me. Maybe because it is black and white?? Gilda is a film noir so half a point to you. Casablanca has a wonderful script with tremendous wit, great performances, beautiful photography and the kind of patriotism unknown in America today, much less Europe. My husband teaches this film to students and they are about as bright as you.

No Pardons is right that The Party was a bomb although I think it has some wonderful gags. I don’t like everything that Blake Edwards does but up until the late 80s when all types of censorship were gone with the wind, he was a brilliant gag man. That talent derived from his early love of Laurel & Hardy and Harold Lloyd.

Breakfast at Tiffany’s is a charming, adorable film that shows Manhattan at its beautiful best. I think the party scene is one of the funniest scenes in all of 60s movies.

And what a dumb remark about watching it after 10pm on a worknight.


106 posted on 07/14/2018 3:59:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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