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To: nopardons; miss marmelstein



What do I know about New York?


Well, I lived in Brooklyn, and lived in Manhattan.


My father, aunts, uncles, grandfather, great-grandfather, grandmothers and great-grandmothers lived in Manhattan, the Bronx, and Brooklyn.


We are New Yorkers, but happily I was born in Virginia. My best friend played for the Yankees.


Did I indeed misuse the word "vapid?" I meant empty. Nebulous. Devoid of meaning. Silly, even. I don't generally look such things up; correct me if I am still "wrong." Maybe you can do some internet searches to defend your position.


I guess the Alabaman / Louisianan flaming homosexual Capote deserves your trust and respect. Personally, I don't care much: I just think it's a lousy screenplay. It is a movie about materialistic whores who "find each other."


Perhaps that counts for entertainment for some. I think (and this is my opinion, based on my values,) the movie is drastically overrated.


It sells posters and sunglasses.



95 posted on 07/12/2018 8:09:51 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux
With regard to your comment (a very "liberal" idea, by the way, that people who who do not agree with you 'know nothing about so-and-so,') let us look at a film from approximately the same era that also had an influence on fashion, namely with regard to trench-coats and a sort of romantic interpretation of noir.

Dates aside, somewhere between Casablanca and Sellers' delight The Party, there is Breakfast.


I refer in this case though there are others to CASABLANCA. Here is a not particularly great movie but one which is delightfully complex, has outstanding visual elements, and includes very complex interpretations of "right and wrong," "love and hate," loyalty, Nazis vs French, etc.

CASABLANCA is not half the film GILDA is, but it is somehow twenty times the film "Breakfast" is.

I will, in fact, challenge any of the artsy forties on this forum to watch Breakfast all the way through, after 10pm on a weekday, without falling asleep.


97 posted on 07/12/2018 8:24:59 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux
You aren't a for REAL New Yorker; you were a carpetbagging transplant!

And like his writing or hate it, loathing Capote or not, hate the movie ( which you don't understand at all ), or claim that its "morals" ( ROTFLMSO ) are the antithesis of yours is beyond the point, and sadly, you just made a bigger fool of yourself with this post.

I come from an old NYC ( Manhattan ) family. A few of my ancestors/members of my extended family, long ago, married and moved away, came back for visits, still had family who lived in NYC, but that NEVER made them "NEW YORKERS", when they were living outside of the city. No, wait a minute, they were actually MORE of a NEW YORKER than you'll EVER be!LOL

You ignored my questing of you KNOWING what Manhattan and the people whom Capote knew and then fictionalized,were like in the 1950's! Obviously, you know less than NOTHING whatsoever about the people who were used as a basis of BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S, nor those who have peopled his other works.

Nor do you know, PERSONALLY, what NYC, the the 1950s were like. And before you ask...yes, I know EXACTLY what Manhattan was like in that decade and many others as well.

Soooooooooooooooo...do you ONLY watch movies and/or read books which portray people who are just like you, in every way?

Not only is there immorality, corruption, and oh...the HORROR OF IT ALL, crimes, not to mention very "dirty words" in Shakespeare ( nit that I'm comparing Capote to the heights of Shakespeare...I'm not! )but his plays are people with characters who are NOTHING at all like you! DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU SHUN SHAKESPEARE'S PLAYS AND DENIGRATE THEM TOO?

Breakfast At Tiffany's is a cute movie; nobody is claiming that it's some kind of "MASTERPIECE OF ART"! OTOH...it's far superior to ANYTHING that has been made in at least the past 30 years, in Holyweird.

Here's your chance...name the 3 BEST "light entertainment" American movies, you've seen and enjoyed, that was made in the past 20 years. Go ahead...I'd like to know what you find acceptable.

98 posted on 07/12/2018 8:49:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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