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I Was Wrong About Trump

Posted on 07/10/2018 6:11:36 AM PDT by Saveourcountry

I was wrong about Trump. I was solidly against him when he was running - knowing that he spent most of his life as a Democrat. I was at the point that I would have almost rather have had a Democrat in office that claimed to be a Democrat than another RINO claiming to be a Republican while ruining the country (not enough to vote for Hillary, or not vote btw). Trump has happily proved me wrong and I am now solidly behind him and happier than I have been, ever, with my president. Hopefully this SC pick proves to be the exact right choice for our times. Prayers are being answered.

Anybody else?


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To: Saveourcountry
Trump happily proved me right. But I had an advantage.

1. I never watched Apprentice or his career except that ...
2. I knew his favorite book was The Fountainhead. That CAN'T be your favorite book and also you be anything but a rational individualist. No rational individualist can be truly a democrat. (However, if you had a business to run and a self-PR campaign to run, you might act like one.) It follows that Ayn Rand is his favorite thinker. I know many here don't like her. I'm not saying she's perfect, I'm saying she can't be your favorite thinker AND you are a democrat/lefty/collectivist.
3. I'd heard him talk about his brother who died.
4. I'd seen him testify before congress.
5. I'd heard him talk about the period when his businesses failed. He was very humble but not ashamed. Said it was a life lesson - he'd taken his eye off the ball, to much women and socializing.
6. He's a non-traditional Christian, but his character was formed in his church.
7. Everyone who's actually worked with him - they don't necessarily like him, but they respected him and his leadership.

So I don't think he was a 'rino who became conservative' ... I think he was a fake democrat (dino) who started showing his true colors. Trump is very very humble, I know that seems odd to say, but the shallow braggadocio is an act. He's deeply reflective. He probably DID become more conservative after he reflected on what his duty as pres would actually mean.

What I've been surprised by, but not that much, is his effectiveness. He has the teflon of Sun Tzu's moral rightness.

I hate to say it, but ... I really don't ... he's a very good and humble man wearing the constume of a loose cannon.

Where he's not humble is not about himself, but what's possible for a man or mankind on this earth, what man's potential is. He extends that to himself, and that appears as pride. But that's different from refusing to be ashamed, because you know the nature of your creator. His belief in himself is tempered with deep reflection and hard work.

Also, of course, as is any humble man, he knows he's a bozo, and isn't afraid to express that too.

Might be reading a lot into it ... but so far I haven't been wrong. Having certain core things in your life ... there are only a certain number of ways you can turn our. He's pretty locked in.

Also I dated a woman who lived in Trump Tower 8 or 9 years ago and she knew him because she was on the board of trustees. I trusted her judgment implicitly, and she trusted his. People have been pushing him to run for decades. That (knowing her, someone closer to him) may have sealed it for me. She was very very conservative, and we met only because the Fountainhead was already our favorite books, that was the conversation opener between us, and that was long before I knew it was Trump's.

So - not that surprise, but way better than I thought.

(sorry don't have time to edit that)

21 posted on 07/10/2018 6:34:13 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: Saveourcountry
It's always easier to play Monday morning quarterback after the game's been won.

Sure took you a long time to jump on the bandwagon.

Late coming to the party.

No refreshments for you.

22 posted on 07/10/2018 6:34:17 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Saveourcountry

Yet another confirmation that the Trump movement is sweeping the country and the world!


23 posted on 07/10/2018 6:37:29 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Saveourcountry

Same here. Cruz was my first choice over a NYC billionaire who wrote “The Art of the Deal” and rubbed elbows with celebrities. I think he could easily have made deals with Schumer and Pelosi if they were more mature. I thank God for the resistance. He truly works in mysterious ways!


24 posted on 07/10/2018 6:41:17 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: Saveourcountry
I lived in NYC during the 80's.

It was the decade of 'The Donald' as incessantly reported by Liz Smith.

I never thought about Trump either way other than getting tired of Liz Smith referring to Trump as 'The Donald'.

The event that shows you who Trump is and how he thinks and acts is the Central Park skating rink.

The city was trying to rebuild the CPSK and they were wildly over budget, it wasn't working, and there was no end in sight.

Trump stepped in and said, 'I'll rebuild it for you (and if I remember correctly) for right to the concessions'.

The city let him and he rebuilt it under budget and before scheduled.

The key to understanding Trumps' personality is that he's impatient with incompetence.

While everyone is saying, 'it can't be done because it's never been done before' and 'we can't do it that way because we have to do it this way', and 'we have to follow the established rules even if the established rules don't work', Trump is saying, 'Why not?' and 'Of course we can'.

Trump is SOLUTION focused. Not PROCESS focused.

Trump looks for the shortest distance between two lines and he finds those of like-mind who know what needs to be done and how to get it done.

This transcends political parties.

It doesn't phase me he was a Democrat.

What's import to me is he correctly identifies a problem and then finds the solution that will work.

25 posted on 07/10/2018 6:41:37 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Saveourcountry

Hopefully this SC pick proves to be the exact right choice for our times.

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Remains to be seen. Ties to George W. Bush, support from GOP establishment, and teaches law at Harvard, Yale and Georgetown (ideological nurseries for liberals). He might not be a reliable conservative vote. Just my humble opinion.

With Ed Meese’s prominent appearance at last night, this guy has the GOP stamp of approval all over him. That’s something to be concerned about.


26 posted on 07/10/2018 6:43:06 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Blennos
Trump was never left-wing, definitely not "extreme left wing," especially by contemporary standards

I view Reagan as an extreme moderate, so it's definitely a subjective categorization, but he did register as a Democrat and ran in very liberal circles in the past.

Again, his actions are that of a conservative as President.
27 posted on 07/10/2018 6:46:02 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: jch10
You sound like a Never Trumper.

I was never a Never Trumper, but had followed the man fairly carefully for years from a business perspective, and he had not been a conservative in the past.

Thankfully, his actions have been very much was America needs.
28 posted on 07/10/2018 6:47:26 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: Saveourcountry

I myself was a hard core pro choice feminist once.


29 posted on 07/10/2018 6:47:57 AM PDT by sportutegrl (Being offended is a choice.)
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To: tinyowl
2. I knew his favorite book was The Fountainhead. That CAN'T be your favorite book and also you be anything but a rational individualist.

” He identified with Howard Roark, the novel’s idealistic protagonist who designs skyscrapers and rages against the establishment.

30 posted on 07/10/2018 6:49:21 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: yesthatjallen

Trump is SOLUTION focused. Not PROCESS focused.

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In this case it may be that the solution was a nod to the GOP establishment for whatever reason. Think art of the deal. Probably a concession in exchange for some other type of support Trump needs in the future.

Not sure Kavanaugh will prove to be someone that conservatives will be happy with in the long run. JMHO.


31 posted on 07/10/2018 6:50:22 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Saveourcountry
I was a Cruz supporter, and was skeptical about Trump being a true Pro-Life president. I also didn't like his personal life nor his repeating Dem talking points against good WI gov. Scott Walker. I flipped when he won Indiana, knowing he would beat Mrs. Clinton, which I repeatedly stated even when I was a Cruz supporter. I was wrong. Trump is the best man available for the job. He has given pro-lifers more than a seat at the table, he is doing all that is politically possible to help the unborn children. He keeps every promise he can, and keeps pushing, and takes no crap.

His lack of a political background is a huge plus. It would have been pie for the deep state to manufacture fake scandals against ANY office holder.

Next time anyone tries to bring up "Russia" with a straight face, I will ask if they heard about Trump's spouse making trips to Russia during the Communist days, and THOSE PAGES WERE REMOVED FROM HIS PASSPORT. When they say they hadn't known, I will inform them that it was actually Mrs. Bill Clinton's spouse who had done that.

God Bless President Trump.
32 posted on 07/10/2018 6:51:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Saveourcountry

When I saw the RINO GOPe 17-candidate “Field of Dreams”, the inclusion of an Independent Cross-over in the image of a exactly a Former Democrat, it seemed to me a slam dunk if he was the GOP nominee; but alas we found the first Resistance in the ranks of the GOPe. I never saw anything Trump put on TV, but by the time of the election I certainly knew One Evident Truth which simply states the DNC will Smear Anyone against them, as the second coming of their Idol Satan.


33 posted on 07/10/2018 6:54:02 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Starboard
Not sure Kavanaugh will prove to be someone that conservatives will be happy with in the long run. JMHO.

My gut feeling is in the long run, Democrats won't have much to worry about.

No bold rulings. Just safe compromises. imo

34 posted on 07/10/2018 6:55:28 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Saveourcountry

Welcome to the party, pal.


35 posted on 07/10/2018 6:55:29 AM PDT by Hazwaste (Democrats are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: MrEdd

BINGO you have perfectly stated something I’ve missed, Trump being the only Nationalist Standing!


36 posted on 07/10/2018 6:55:50 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“It might just cause a mass defection.”

Already happening.

#WalkAway started by a Gay Man is picking up steam Bigly


37 posted on 07/10/2018 6:56:00 AM PDT by Jayster
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To: Blennos

Exactly! It was more profitable to be a Democrat in NYC.


38 posted on 07/10/2018 6:56:53 AM PDT by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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To: tinyowl

As a former NCO who was told by the Officer Candidate Board (while serving in a 4-Star General’s office), Sergeant Mac you are a fantastic NCO who will get in trouble as an officer, but Officer’s need good NCO’s to execute the mission without breaking regulations or laws - aka, you have the talent to stand up to your superiors from a position of correctness in making it happen. Trump is that old Non Commissioned Officer from his Military College - Leadership is about as rare as pure logical or not so common common sense.


39 posted on 07/10/2018 7:00:27 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Saveourcountry

Ditto, here. I am finding, though, that former democrats make some of the best conservatives we could have speaking out and representing.


40 posted on 07/10/2018 7:02:21 AM PDT by babyfreep
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