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Why you might want to wrap your car key fob in foil
wsbtv ^ | Jul 8, 2018 - 6:40 PM | Phoebe Wall Howard,

Posted on 07/09/2018 8:16:52 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Given that the best way to store your car keys at night is by putting them in a coffee can, what's an ex-FBI agent's advice to protect cars from theft during the day? Wrap car fobs in aluminum foil.

“Although it's not ideal, it is the most inexpensive way,” said Holly Hubert, a cybersecurity expert who retired in 2017 from the FBI in Buffalo, New York. “The cyber threat is so dynamic and ever changing, it’s hard for consumers to keep up.”

Now, as CEO of GlobalSecurityIQ, she suggests clients go online and spend a few dollars and buy what’s called a Faraday bag to shield the fob signal from potential theft. Imagine a traditional sandwich bag made of foil instead of plastic. Thing is, the car is always waiting for the fob signal. Thieves can buy legitimate devices that amplify the fob signal sitting unprotected in a purse, a pocket, on a counter at home or even just copy the code to access the vehicle.

Copying code from key fobs isn’t difficult. And this is something the auto industry and insurance companies are monitoring closely.

The cheap (or homemade) metal protection covers, named for the scientist who figured out how to block an electromagnetic field, can prevent thieves from having access to vehicles with a wireless fob. Currently, thieves can capture fob signals from outside a home, office or hotel room.

“You know it works if you can’t unlock a car door when the fob is inside,” said Moshe Shlisel, CEO of GuardKnox Cyber Technologies and a veteran of the Israeli Air Force who helped develop cyber protection for fighter jets and missile defense systems . “The credit card holders don’t work because they’re essentially a net rather than a wall.”

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: carkeys; cartheft; cybersecurity; faradaycage; foil
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To: BenLurkin

Technology is just warp & woof of “rigged”!
GyG@PlanetWTF?
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21 posted on 07/09/2018 8:32:33 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"You can use a a metallized Mylar potato chip bag as a Faraday cage for your phone and your smart keys:"

There, fixed.

22 posted on 07/09/2018 8:33:34 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: What would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: BenLurkin

There is no “Key fob” for a 1997 ford ranger.


23 posted on 07/09/2018 8:35:06 AM PDT by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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To: BenLurkin

Go ahead. One of mine is a company car. Care les if it gets ripped off.

My personal car is a five speed. Nuff said.

My wife’s car is insured.


24 posted on 07/09/2018 8:36:32 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: Redbob

To all who pointed out cans are still available, I guess that just proves that I’m really not a coffee drinker and don’t pay attention in that aisle of the grocery store except for the K-cups I get for my wife’s 1 cup/day.

Mea Culpa.


25 posted on 07/09/2018 8:36:53 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45
When was the last time anybody bought coffee that was in an actual metal can????"

Costco Canno Supremo Beano!!!

26 posted on 07/09/2018 8:38:11 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: T-Bird45

Been to Safeway or any other supermarket lately? Lots of coffee still come in cans.


27 posted on 07/09/2018 8:39:59 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: BenLurkin

“Copying code from key fobs isn’t difficult. “

These fobs have had code scanning, thousands of times per minute, since 1991.

WTF ?


28 posted on 07/09/2018 8:43:25 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: SkyDancer

See post #25 - I’m in the store plenty, just not a coffee drinker & my wife uses K-cups for her small coffee fix. No Safeway here - gone before the turn of the century.


29 posted on 07/09/2018 8:43:48 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: BenLurkin
“You know it works if you can’t unlock a car door when the fob is inside.”

Great, so if you want to unlock the door, what do you do? Take it out to use and be prone to interception? Likewise, what is the point of keeping it in a can when at home?

30 posted on 07/09/2018 8:44:58 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: BenLurkin

I’ll just keep it under my tinfoil hat!


31 posted on 07/09/2018 8:49:13 AM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: Only kidding.)
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To: T-Bird45

> When was the last time anybody bought coffee that was in an actual metal can????

About a month ago at Aldi. Good long-term cheap survival coffee.


32 posted on 07/09/2018 8:49:43 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: T-Bird45

No big deal. Idioms aside, you simply asked!


33 posted on 07/09/2018 8:50:54 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: BenLurkin

Or just have an enterprising mechanic remove the electronic crap from your car and install a keyed system.


34 posted on 07/09/2018 8:51:05 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: T-Bird45

Aren’t the cardboard ones foil lined? I’ll know in a few weeks when my stock is rotated to the two “cans” I bought on sale. (Otherwise, it’s the plastic jugs from Costco...)


35 posted on 07/09/2018 9:02:00 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Kickass Conservative
What are these “keys” you speak of? #;^)

Try this

My uncle has a country place, that no-one knows about He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law Sundays I elude the ‘Eyes’, and hop the Turbine Freight To far outside the Wire, where my white-haired uncle waits

Jump to the ground As the Turbo slows to cross the borderline Run like the wind As excitement shivers up and down my spine Down in his barn My uncle preserved for me an old machine – For fifty-odd years To keep it as new has been his dearest dream

I strip away the old debris, that hides a shining car A brilliant red Barchetta, from a better, vanished time Fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar! Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime…

Wind in my hair – Shifting and drifting – Mechanical music Adrenalin surge –

Well-weathered leather Hot metal and oil The scented country air Sunlight on chrome The blur of the landscape Every nerve aware

Suddenly ahead of me, across the mountainside A gleaming alloy air-car shoots towards me, two lanes wide I spin around with shrieking tires, to run the deadly race Go screaming through the valley as another joins the chase

Drive like the wind Straining the limits of machine and man Laughing out loud With fear and hope, I’ve got a desperate plan At the one-lane bridge I leave the giants stranded At the riverside Race back to the farm To dream with my uncle At the fireside…

36 posted on 07/09/2018 9:04:15 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: BenLurkin

Help me understand...is a car key fob constantly sending? Or just when you use it?


37 posted on 07/09/2018 9:05:44 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: BenLurkin
I guess this answers my question..."Thieves can buy legitimate devices that amplify the fob signal sitting unprotected in a purse, a pocket, on a counter at home or even just copy the code to access the vehicle. "
38 posted on 07/09/2018 9:06:54 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: BenLurkin

And always be aware of your surroundings.

Hands out of pockets and your head on a swivel.

Sad.

5.56mm


39 posted on 07/09/2018 9:10:11 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: ChildOfThe60s

We live in a nice country club neighborhood. Everyone parks their cars outside except us. In the driveways are expensive trucks, BMW’s, Mercedes, and the other day I saw one of the neighbors bought a new Range Rover. It’s parked in the 105 degree heat in the driveway. I’m sure their garages are full of really expensive stuff that would bring about $200 at a yard sale. Lol
Our cars are always garaged and the junk goes to Goodwill.


40 posted on 07/09/2018 9:16:37 AM PDT by sheana
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