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Video shows Thai boys, trapped in cave, smiling and joking with rescuers
https://www.nola.com ^ | 7/4/18

Posted on 07/04/2018 12:21:05 PM PDT by BBell

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I have been watching this unfold. I hope those boys do not have to spend 4 more months down there as some have suggested. They may go nuts.

It could be worse, it could be a bunch of teenage girls. Of course teenage girls would probably not have gotten themselves into this mess. (;>)

1 posted on 07/04/2018 12:21:05 PM PDT by BBell
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The sensory deprivation alone is enough to drive me nuts thinking about it.


2 posted on 07/04/2018 12:22:23 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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Reminds me of that movie with Kirk Douglas ,are they dragging it out


3 posted on 07/04/2018 12:25:05 PM PDT by butlerweave
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Granted, I am not a diving expert, but it seems to me, a few anchors, some rope/cable, and a few diving helmets, and you could have those kids out in an hour.
If grown adult divers with cameras and supplies can physically fit, then kids could fit.
This whole thing is weird. Get it together thailand.


4 posted on 07/04/2018 12:26:21 PM PDT by Kelyan
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Why would anyone go into a cave where you have to crawl and squeeze your way through half a mile in?

What happens if one person gets stuck or panics?

This is a nightmare scenario.

I would never go farther than looking inside from the outside.

5 posted on 07/04/2018 12:28:04 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: volunbeer

I caved quite a bit during my teen years, was even a card-carrying member of the National Speleological Society for a few years. While I personally never spent more than three consecutive days underground, that’s more than enough for vertigo to set in. Gravity gives you a general sense of where, “down” is, but the absence of a natural horizon can be disorienting.


6 posted on 07/04/2018 12:30:08 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Why would anyone go into a cave where you have to crawl and squeeze your way through half a mile in?

Follow the leader. Trust the Coach. Major factors.

Not chickening out when everyone else is doing it.

7 posted on 07/04/2018 12:31:39 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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What are they eating and how is it being delivered to them?


8 posted on 07/04/2018 12:31:52 PM PDT by deport
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" Granted, I am not a diving expert, but it seems to me, a few anchors, some rope/cable, and a few diving helmets, and you could have those kids out in an hour."

You're right, you're not a diviing expert... didn't even dive very deep into the article: :-)

Gary Mitchell, the group's assistant vice chairman, said getting out of the cave requires about a kilometer (half a mile) of diving total, though not all in one stretch, and takes about three hours.

9 posted on 07/04/2018 12:33:06 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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I remember how paranoid I was as a Camp Counselor. This does seem like a case of someone in charge deciding “what hasn’t happened can’t ever happen”. As far as getting them out through water? They don’t know how to swim and their muscle strength must be just about gone. I wonder if they could do any more than crawl out and keep their balance. Crazy thought....could they put them in induced comas and carry them out?


10 posted on 07/04/2018 12:38:56 PM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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No, I read it. Did you read this part you quoted?
>>though not all in one stretch
Thus, there could easily be rest/resupply on the trip. Maybe there are issues I’m not seeing. This seems like a solvable problem though.


11 posted on 07/04/2018 12:39:05 PM PDT by Kelyan
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Oh my God!!! Better not let Fauxcahantas see those metal blankets!!!!


12 posted on 07/04/2018 12:39:55 PM PDT by small farm girl (....)
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If anyone’s interested. Here’s an article about something similar. (except it was pro’s involved, not kids)

Hire these guys to do the rescue.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36097300


13 posted on 07/04/2018 12:44:41 PM PDT by Kelyan
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could they put them in induced comas and carry them out?

I thought about that as well.

14 posted on 07/04/2018 12:45:45 PM PDT by BBell (Ich bin Ein Wenig Teekanne ):>()
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To: yesthatjallen

You do it to see what’s there. Exploring is human nature... and humans have explored caves for thousands of years, depending on them for shelter and protection, water, and food storage. Caves can range from duds to extremely gorgeous, even surreal, though even a dud cave can be a welcome relief from oppressive summer heat. There’s beauty like nothing else on earth in crystal formations and flowstone and seemingly bottomless crystal water in many of them. And if you like waterslides and mud and such as boys do, they are quite fun. But it’s true you have to be very aware of the weather in the region, not just locally, when exploring them, since caves are created by water from underground streams and distant sink holes that can be 25 miles away or more.

This cave is a well known tourist attraction, which may be why the coach was so complacent. He was familiar with the cave though apparently not with precautions.


15 posted on 07/04/2018 12:46:59 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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could they put them in induced comas and carry them out?


What I heard today is that there are parts of the underwater journey out that are so narrow only one person fits through at a time. So no, they can’t be anesthetized and brought out. But if they start training now, they can get used to the suits and breathing in them, and can use ropes through those tighter spots. They won’t need to learn how swim, they just need to learn how not to panic.


16 posted on 07/04/2018 12:50:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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There are so many articles and a lot of them contradict each other. I’m not quite sure what the situation is.


17 posted on 07/04/2018 12:50:46 PM PDT by BBell (Ich bin Ein Wenig Teekanne ):>()
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I've read articles where spelunkers were wedged into caves and died.

If you have to squeeze your way in there's no telling you can squeeze yourself out backwards.

18 posted on 07/04/2018 12:53:54 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Geez! Why can't they get the boys to swim with a little oxygen cannister or get the boys with these submersibles?





19 posted on 07/04/2018 12:57:51 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: deport

Has anyone seen Timothy?


20 posted on 07/04/2018 1:01:50 PM PDT by Rastus
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