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1 posted on 07/03/2018 6:55:35 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

EVERYONE thinks their beliefs are best or they would believe something else...

No one says, ‘here’s my opinion and I don’t believe what I’m saying’


2 posted on 07/03/2018 6:57:03 AM PDT by GOPJ ( BEST REASON TO STOP immigration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4)
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To: Heartlander
the next time you're feeling especially fired up about something, it's a good moment to step back and consider a different point of view

Has the MSM considered this?

3 posted on 07/03/2018 6:58:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If you beleive the dog, then take his advice.)
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To: Heartlander
It turns out, the more certain you are about something, the less informed you're likely to be about it.

Therefore, applying that principle to this article, I'm blowing it off.

5 posted on 07/03/2018 7:00:56 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: Heartlander

Holy cow! This speaks to exactly what a music ministry pastor and I were discussing at his large church in Louisville.

I was lamenting that, after moving from Seattle to rural KY, I was finding a lot of dogmatism. That is, people believed many things about Christianity as absolutely the final word, but when you tried to discuss it with them they would just clam up and say “I believe what the bible sez.” But what they actually believed was a certain interpretation, and they could not support it.

Meanwhile, this music minister said that his church had a lot of members that were professors at a local bible college. He said what he has noticed was that, for a lot of Christian messages beyond the core message, the more someone knows about what the bible teaches, the less sure they are of their opinion on the specific issues.

I’ve found that happening with me. The more I know, the more I know I don’t know, and the less sure I am about things like the afterlife, the “before the world existed” stuff, etc.


6 posted on 07/03/2018 7:01:02 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: Heartlander

I believe Trump is turning the country around for the better.

I believe Socialism is a crock.

I believe the left are loons.

I believe Hollyweird is full of pervs.

I believe Kim is a big fat liar.

I believe the UN is a farce.

I believe islam and Sharia Law is evil.

I believe most of Congress are there to line their pockets and don’t give a flying fig about the US.


8 posted on 07/03/2018 7:07:28 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Heartlander

The irony of the authors thesis is completely lost on him.


10 posted on 07/03/2018 7:10:10 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Heartlander
There was once a study using Functional Brain Mapping

One took a cohort of people with a well defined, polarized, and defended belief system,
good example Abortion is Good vs Abortion is Evil

Put these people in the machine

Present them with Congruent data to their belief system
The Endorphin pathways lit up - Natural Narcotic

Present them with In-congruent data to their belief system
There was wide suppression of the ability to learn

Hearing stuff you agree with makes you feel good
Hearing stuff you don't agree with, turn off mind

I've watched myself do this now many times
It has been... Enlightening

It turns out that we subconsciously manipulate ourselves
To "Prune" data inputs, and it requires engaging the Prefrontal Cortex
or the "Command Pathways" to overcome it

11 posted on 07/03/2018 7:10:36 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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If I thought there were other systems of belief that we’re better than mine, I would believe them. The writer of the article cannot get away with making a dogmatic statement with surety and then saying that those that do so know less. This is not logical. Those that do not believe in absolute truth have no standing from which to project any viewpoint.


12 posted on 07/03/2018 7:11:55 AM PDT by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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http://www.punditpress.com/2011/08/mr-obama-and-dunning-kruger-effect.html


13 posted on 07/03/2018 7:13:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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It looks to me like the turkeys that whipped up this “study” were unwitting members of the Dunning Kruger club.

To quote the OP, “Then, they compared how those participants ranked their own knowledge about those subjects and how much they actually knew…After they compared people’s presumed knowledge against their actual knowledge…”

Presumably it was the authors of this “study” that made the decisions about “actual knowledge,” and how much the subjects “actually knew.” Sitting up there on leftard Olympus calling their own proglodyte nonsense “knowledge” and the truth “faulty conservative belief,” I would bet.

The only study to trust is the one that found 99% of studies to be bull hockey.


17 posted on 07/03/2018 7:17:43 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: Heartlander
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do."
21 posted on 07/03/2018 7:30:24 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: Heartlander

I worked with a man like that. He was so dumb he did not know how dumb he really was. Sad thing is he was so dumb everyone felt sorry for him. Not retarded or mentally impaired, just DUMB.
The men who were to train him, after a year said that he was a danger to himself and everyone around him. The bosses got nervous when they found how dumb the guy really was.

BUT, his dad was a BIG SHOT in the company so we were saddled with him for a year. When he went to a plant in the South, he did massive damage to it due to his dumbness.
The stories we could tell about him.....every story true.


26 posted on 07/03/2018 7:37:38 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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34 posted on 07/03/2018 8:06:39 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Wonderful theory, wrong species)
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To: Heartlander

So they are saying cannibals are smarter than I am, because I think my beliefs are better than theirs?

Reuben Westmaas must be an idiot who believes in nothing and want the rest of us to believe nothing too.


35 posted on 07/03/2018 8:09:41 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Heartlander

Ah!
Beliefs, opinions, etc.
But To GROK!
;)
+++++


38 posted on 07/03/2018 8:22:32 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Heartlander

Hate to hurt anyone’s feelings, but there is only ONE faith that matters, all else are false.

NO one comes to the Lord accept those who come through Christ Jesus. All else is but false god’s created by Satan to lead you to hell.


41 posted on 07/03/2018 8:55:29 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Heartlander

He is right. Islam is just another belief system equal with all others... on the other hand, it seems that only Islamist have the nasty habit of blowing up in crowds.


42 posted on 07/03/2018 8:59:57 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Heartlander
It's not just how confident you are in your belief; it's how much you believe that belief is better than those of other people. In other words, confidence is an absolute value, but belief-superiority is a relative value based on what you think of others' opinions.

beliefs based on reason, reality, and validly proven objective knowledge integrated with past true knowledge are certain and superior to irrational arbitrary beliefs

45 posted on 07/03/2018 9:03:14 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Heartlander

So, what you are saying.....~Cathy Newman


47 posted on 07/03/2018 9:07:51 AM PDT by Jayster
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To: Heartlander; GOPJ

(Note: Not necessarily aimed at anyone!)

So - If I claim to be insane and can’t fly the mission, I’m sane enough to ask to get out of it, and I must fly the mission. If I want to fly the mission, I’m insane, but the Doc says I have to ask not to fly before he can ground me. (Catch-22)

So - If I know my own mind, I’ve got to be wrong, but if I’m not sure what I think, I’m much smarter. Riiiiight.

I like what GOPJ said in post 2. If you didn’t believe your belief was better, you wouldn’t believe it. That’s pretty much a definition.

Here’s one from me. If I’m pretty sure where I’m going, why would I take a side road instead of the route I know? The “open-minded” discussions are simply people trying to convince me to turn off early. I can listen, if I have time, but not sure why I would, most of the time. I have to have some sort of respect for someone (or his message) to spend time listening to him.

I tell people that if you are going to follow Christ, you need to be willing to do what He plainly says to do, and to believe what he’s told you (the Bible). Is my faith in Christ better than doubting him? He says it is. He also says I need to be ready to give reasons why I believe. I get it - to anyone who does not believe, it sounds like circular reasoning. And the Bible tells me that’s what they will think.

The MORE I study scripture, with the underlying meaning of the words, the MORE I believe what it says. Flame away.


61 posted on 07/03/2018 10:03:42 AM PDT by HeadOn (Funny how common sense works when you try it.)
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