Posted on 06/26/2018 8:14:14 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
The Kremlin has in recent years advanced a narrative that Russia must not be ashamed of its Soviet past. President Vladimir Putin has used his nearly two decades in power to talk up achievements during World War II as a rallying cry to unite the nation.
In recent years, there have been efforts in Russia to transform Stalin’s image from that of a bloody dictator to a ‘great personality.’
A poll by the independent Levada Center found only 9 percent of Russians blamed Stalin’s leadership for the war casualties, according to a survey published Wednesday.
That is a a rapidly dwindling fourfold decline from the 36 percent of respondents who believed in 1991.
(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...
Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan advocated private property, lower taxes, i.e. smaller government.
Hitler, Stalin, and Roosevelt advanced collectivism, confiscation and larger government.
BTW, Roosevelt’s own cousin said, “FDR stands for Furher, Duce and Roosevelt.”
France and Britain allied with Hitler by signing the Munich agreement.
It’s important to note that the Czar finally abolished Russia’s equivalent of slavery, serfdom, just shortly before Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation.
Stalin arranged things so as to have the Germans and the West exhaust each other, so that the Red Army could sweep across Europe with little opposition...except that the Germans were faster on the draw and absolutely pulverized the Soviet units that were crowded into offensively-oriented positions very close to the border with the Third Reich.
Source: “Icebreaker. WHO STARTED THE SECOND WORLD WAR?”
by Viktor Suvorov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker_(Suvorov) (really Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun, former Spetnaz and GRU officer who defected to the UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorov)
Talking about aggressor, the oversea colonies held by France and Britain didn’t grow on trees.
There were a significant number of people who didn’t blame Stalin for their imprisonment in the Gulag, and who cried when he died.
For what it is worth.
Stalin was responsible for the deaths of at least 20 million of his own people completely unrelated to German atrocities or casualties of war. The fact that many Russians are now choosing to remember him differently is worrisome.
It is also worrisome and very ironic that in your defense of Stalin you ask the question, “Should Americans hold FDR liable for the loss in Pearl Harbor?”
Many historians along with numerous people who lived through the time period hold FDR's actions almost completely responsible for Pearl Harbor? There are a great many who believe that FDR baited the Japanese into attacking us so that he could finally get us into WWII despite his campaign promises and misleading public rhetoric.
FDR promised repeatedly that he hated war and would not allow the United States to get sucked into another European conflict. He was accused of lying at the time because there was a deep conflict between the promises he made during his reelection campaign and his actual actions. This duplicity was neatly done away with and forgotten because of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and the furor that it caused.
There is no dispute that the Roosevelt administration withheld vital intelligence information from the military before the attack. This resulted in casualties and losses that were much worse than they might have been. After the attack a witch hunt was launched against our military commanders that destroyed the reputations and careers of many good men. The careers and reputations of men who were far more honorable than Roosevelt were sacrificed to hide his duplicity.
So “Should Americans hold FDR liable for the loss in Pearl Harbor?”. Yes, OBVIOUSLY YES!!!
So it was Stalin who ordered France and Britain to allow
Hitler rebuilding Germany’s military power?
So when does old Joe get his own t-shirt?
There was an entire cottage industry around that for a while.
Personally, I dislike what Roosevelt was and what he stood for, but I don't think he knew 2000 Americans were going to be killed.
Does that include his purges of the Red Army officer corps?
What’s wrong with it?
The survey mentioned in the article was about world war II casualties, not about so called great purge.
And I don’t think average Americans will hold FDR liable for attack of Pearl Harbor.
Should we feel Worrisome?
Fake News. They signed an agreement, they did not ally their forces of arms toward common military goals.
Poor try.
FDR did, however, sack Admiral after Admiral after Admiral, etc. until he found one willing to relocate the Pacific fleet from San Diego to Pearl Harbor.
It was FDR’s decision to relocate the fleet that created the opportunity for the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor.
No, but it WAS Stalin who allowed the Germans to do all kinds of field tests of Panzers, aircraft and artillery IN SOVIET RUSSIA in the 1930s, well before the “festivities” over there got started. The Western allies had spies in Germany, but not so much in the USSR.
It’s double plus good Comrade!
It is a rewriting of history that attempts to erase the incredible, unimaginable cruelty and suffering that Stalin was almost completely and directly responsible for. You do not think that think that there is anything wrong with that?
And I don’t think average Americans will hold FDR liable for attack of Pearl Harbor.
That is because the “average American” didn't grow up with a career soldier who was a combat veteran who joined in 1938 and served into the Vietnam period. The average Russian no longer knows someone who lived through the Siege of Leningrad who still lives near my wife and I to this day. The “average American” didn't grow up in a situation with people who still had vivid memories of the Roosevelt administration. The “average American” is not a student of history. The “average American” like the average Russian can be influenced by glitzy propaganda.
FDR was a serial liar. This can be easily proven if you listen to his recorded radio messages or watch motion picture footage of his campaign speeches from before WWII. Then compare his rhetoric to the actual actions of his administration during the same time period. He was as every bit as untruthful as Obama and the Clintons. And many of those who opposed him paid a terrible price.
France falling without much of a fight, turned out to be a blessing in disguise.
Of course not ... He reviewed the intel from the British attack on the Italian navy at Taranto, and concluded that the worst the Japanese could do was damage a battleship or two. Small price to pay, right? (/s)
It’s quite easy to say something very cynical like that, but when it comes down to it, in today’s world of lies, dang lies, and the internet, who can know anything anymore?
Perhaps FDR was a shapeshifting lizard, too. One thing for sure, he definitely was a socialist... :P
Stalin also gave the SS and Gestapo the lists of all members of the German Communist party, so Hitler could do away with them. Stalin did not want a strong German Communist movement, out of fear they would eventually rival Moscow.
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