Posted on 06/16/2018 7:46:07 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
Where did the current policy of separating children from the parents during Illegal border crossings originate?
All I find when I search are it's all the Trump Administrations fault. Every search engine seems to come up nothing but the Left's viewpoint here.
Yet I have read someplace that these policies predate Trump.
So any help appreciated on information on this.
“The President does not share your viewpoint and if you were to follow the QAnon”
I think Trump hates that POS jeff sessions more than I do. Pro-tip: Queer Anon is disinformation.
Isn’t subjecting a child to the commission of a felony child endangerment ?
(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penaltiesAny alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.
You know if a lawyer was smart enough he could say that holding those illegal children is “protecting them” with the order of the 14th amendment Their parents are illegal here which makes that a criminal offence it’s not illegal to lock them up but it would be more egregious
to leave those children on the street and homeless which violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. so keeping them safe in this case even from their parents whose first act was to break the law coming here is plausible even defendable
But in the area of constitutionality presented by these cases no national policy is perceived that might justify the State in denying these children protection even from their parents who broke the law !
Why do the Democrats cry about children being separated from their parents at the border but have no problems with children being separated using forceps at abortion clinics?
My guess is that it originated long before trump and the the kids that were seperated before were never seen again. I believe they were keep in cages. And if that wasn’t horrific enough,I am not sure what happen after that.
Your guess is as good as mine they don’t show much effect when a single mom or dad goes to jail for drugs or worse and the kids go to foster care either
Just more of defending illegals before americans
Oops!
I found this that gives SOME background:
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/children-immigrant-families-separated-parents
Parents caught jumping the Mexican border illegally w/ “their” children?
POINTS TO PONDER:
<><>A common Third world practice is to claim children that are not theirs in order to increase the gravy train haul....especially the EITC checks.
<><> There’s instances of border-crossers passing children back and forth for monetary gain.
<><> Sometimes the border jumpers claim children “back home” who do not even exist on EITC forms.
<><>The “parents” jumping the border may by anything but the ones who sired those children.....could even be traffickers, maybe pedophile pimps.
AND THIS: THE GOVT OF MEXICO CONSIDERS MEXICANS ON US SOIL TO BE MEXICAN CITIZENS SUBJECT TO THE GOVT OF MEXICO
A sworn affidavit by Mexico’s Consul General to a Texas court asserts that Mexico’s official govt policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access our generous welfare system. The Mexican consul’s sworn testimony asserts: “My responsibilities in this position include protecting the rights and promoting the interests of my fellow Mexican nationals, and, that the main responsibility of consulates is to provide services, assistance, and protection to Mexican nationals abroad.” A footnote states that Mexican nationality is granted to children born abroad of a Mexican born parent. IOW, anchor babies born in the US retain parents Mexican nationality.
Ergo, illegals have two governments looking after their interests.....our govt subsidizing them, and the Mexican govt making sure they collect.
Its time the US govt look after the interests of American citizens.
This
Remember when obama started encouraging families to send unaccompanied children to the US? This became a deluge of parentless children/” minors’ ( some children some not) being smuggled into the US by coyotes hired by the parents- who assumed once their kids were in the US they could then follow.
It became chaos. Hundreds of thousands! No one tracked who was actually related to the kids. They were turned over to adults who claimed to be relatives. Apparently thousands simply disappeared.
A perfect front for trafficking. Orchestrated by the president who had special pizza and hot dogs flown into the WH from Chicago for his birthday.
Under this president things have changed.
If you are white: try bringing your own kids across an international border with no id and no proof they are your kids.
at reddit the donald -
Media manipulation in action. Look at the headline of this linked article. Now look at the URL. Then look at the headline it populates when you try to share it
The Headline - OBAMA HELD MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN IN SHELTERS COMPARED TO TRUMP WHITE HOUSE
The actual URL - http://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-holding-more-immigrant-children-shelters-ever-949099
What it auto populates when you try and share it. - https://imgur.com/j7DCJZk
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/8rixer/media_manipulation_in_action_look_at_the_headline/
Obama Held More Than Double the Number of Children in Shelters Compared to Trump White House
Dem Rep to CNN: Unaccompanied-Minors Detention Center Conditions 'Kept Quiet' Under Obama
Wow
This should go VIRAL
Corruption of internet search results to distort the news
Fake news from CNN is no longer adequate to propagandize the masses
Our media is starting to look like North Korea
I want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread, it has a lot of good information we need to hit back our critics with. It confirms the rank Hypocrisy and Mendacity of our opponents and the lies they spread on President Trump, while giving a pass to their own like Clinton and Obama.
While I wish there was another solution, there is not, the same policies have been in place everyday in our own Criminal Justice System and yet the “Compassionate” Left Wing Liberals never say a word.
What we have now is nothing more than a feel good cause a celeb that makes all these people feel good but then they never offer any solutions. The only solution would be to build large Internment Camps like we had during W.W. II and not only will that not work it would also be an outrage to many.
Thanks again for all the great posts and information. It helped me a great deal in my latest debate with the Left.
For reference purposes, could you post some sources links, or have they already been posted?
Felons get arrested and jailed in this country all the time. What's your recommendation for these children? Let them stay in a house with no adults? Both parents arrested.
While serving as a bondsman, it was my experience that child protective services is called and we separate the children from their parents.
My point is that illegal immigration is a felony. The children drug along invoke the additional felony of child endangerment to the perpetrators. Illegal immigrants are law breakers to begin with.
Send them all back.
If we are a nation of laws, the laws need to be enforced.
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