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Medical flight crashes, killing pilots on way to pick up sick patient
MSN, FOX News ^ | 6/15/2018 | Stephen Sorace

Posted on 06/15/2018 7:21:55 AM PDT by sodpoodle

Two pilots who were killed this week when a small plane crashed in New Jersey were on a non-emergency medical flight to pick up a patient in Massachusetts for treatment in Philadelphia, officials said. Pilot Robert Winner, 69, of Marlton, and co-pilot Timothy Scannevin, 71, of Southampton, both died shortly after the twin-engine Hawker Beechcraft 58 Baron went down in Springfield Township, in Burlington County, NJ.com reported.

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Does not state on which day this occurred. Did not find an earlier thread.
1 posted on 06/15/2018 7:21:55 AM PDT by sodpoodle
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To: sodpoodle

Ages 69 & 71. Ratings current?


2 posted on 06/15/2018 7:24:51 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Rather than age, my first question for a flight that ends on takeoff that involves a twin, is single-engine proficiency.

I have a single by choice - having two engines doubles your chance of losing one.


3 posted on 06/15/2018 7:29:18 AM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: sodpoodle

The Federal Aviation Administration says the Hawker Beechcraft 58 Baron aircraft went down Wednesday morning in Springfield Township.


4 posted on 06/15/2018 7:32:04 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: sodpoodle

I have flown in that type/model/series. Smooth, reliable aircraft.


5 posted on 06/15/2018 7:36:32 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: C210N

The remaining engine just takes you to the site of the crash. The comedian Ron White has a great story on that.


6 posted on 06/15/2018 7:46:41 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: onedoug

Must have currency in order to do a flight like that (BFR, medical, etc).


7 posted on 06/15/2018 7:47:40 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: onedoug

If they are flying at that age in that kind of helicopter with up to date ratings, I generally would trust them with my life.


8 posted on 06/15/2018 7:51:30 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: onedoug

Medical Certificates current?


9 posted on 06/15/2018 7:51:59 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: sodpoodle

Very sad indeed. The pilot was a volunteer for Angel Flight. Angel Flight offers free flights for medical circumstances. They do honorable work.


10 posted on 06/15/2018 7:52:03 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: rlmorel

Beech Baron - NOT a chopper......


11 posted on 06/15/2018 7:53:01 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: sodpoodle

The plane had taken off earlier Wednesday about 10 miles (16 kilometers) southwest of the crash scene.

The National Transportation Safety Board says no distress call was made before the crash.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/press/new_jersey/killed-in-crash-were-on-medical-flight-to-get-patient/article_7172289b-f184-527a-869c-bb0cf587b283.amp.html


12 posted on 06/15/2018 7:54:57 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: sodpoodle

Wed. June 13th.


13 posted on 06/15/2018 7:57:59 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Arlis

Ah. When I read it, my mind immediately went back to an incident where a hospital I worked at had a chopper go down in a thunderstorm and killed a doctor and the pilot, but the RN and patient survived...

I just read it and my mind made the switch. Still goes, though.


14 posted on 06/15/2018 8:07:13 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: SkyDancer

For the record, an FAA medical is just one way to be current medically. They added “Basic Med” about 2-3 years ago - a more relaxed version that puts more onus on the healthy pilot, instead of passing a formal medical exam.


15 posted on 06/15/2018 8:11:02 AM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: rjsimmon

My dad liked the Baron I flew on a couple of trips with him until Raytheon (formerly Beech at that time) Aircrafts bean counters started questioning why the facilities service guy was flying himself (2nd job not in job description ) Instead of flying commercial. Dad saw it as a perk.


16 posted on 06/15/2018 8:12:38 AM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head.)
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To: SkyDancer

Do some twin engine A/Cs have counter rotating engines while others don’t?

I do know that engine out procedure on one wing is very different from on the opposite wing.

Vietnam Huey pilot here, with single engine land A/C rating.


17 posted on 06/15/2018 8:50:49 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970

Here’s a good source: http://www.krepelka.com/fsweb/learningcenter/advancedflyingskills/flyingtwinengineaircraft.htm


18 posted on 06/15/2018 10:03:00 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: elcid1970

Yes, some A/Cs have counter rotating props.
Most do not. The left engine is considered the “critical engine” because, if it quits, the rudder is less effective making directional control with one engine operating difficult.

Why? Because the flow of air from the engines moves aft and to the right. That flow from the left engine goes to the rudder. From the right engine to air aft of the right wing, no effect.


19 posted on 06/15/2018 10:08:36 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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