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Microsoft Forums Drop Support for Win 7/8/8.1, Office 2010/13, Surface/Pro/2, MSE, IE10, ...
Microsoft Community Forums ^ | Jun 8, 2018 | Michelle Mad

Posted on 06/11/2018 8:07:50 AM PDT by dayglored

FR dayglored note: Technical Support and answering questions are being discontinued for the listed Community Forums, meaning the forum threads are either users-only, or locked to further comments (read-only)

This does NOT indicate dropping of Product Technical Support, e.g. Security updates, etc. Those are still per the regular end-of-life announcements.


Hello,

Effective July 2018, the Microsoft Community forums listed below will shift support scope and Microsoft staff will no longer provide technical support there. There will be no proactive reviews, monitoring, answering or answer marking of questions. The forums will still be moderated by Microsoft agents to ensure participants can engage in a safe and positive environment.

Microsoft Community participants are welcome and encouraged to continue to use the forum to ask questions and post answers with each other.

The support for the below products will be discontinued across different forums in the Community.

Thank you for being part of Microsoft Community!

Article link: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/feedback/forum/fdbk_news/product-support-forum-changes-on-microsoft/b1f5c5a4-7d66-4579-83bf-2b6ba599baaa


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: microsoft; support; windows; windowspinglist
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To: bgill

Good points...


41 posted on 06/11/2018 1:52:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (Clinton on sexual misconduct:Norms have changed about what you can do to someone against their will.)
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To: relictele

I know appliances don’t last like they use to... one repair person told me it was because most of this stuff was built overseas and they don’t have the same values as the old American companies.

Let’s hope Trump can bring back some of the old values - and I don’t mean ‘norms’ like the crap Clinton’s pushing.


42 posted on 06/11/2018 1:56:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (Clinton on sexual misconduct:Norms have changed about what you can do to someone against their will.)
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To: Still Thinking

Brave New World? We need more soma...


43 posted on 06/11/2018 1:58:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (Clinton on sexual misconduct:Norms have changed about what you can do to someone against their will.)
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To: BBB333

Thank you


44 posted on 06/11/2018 2:28:41 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

If you do try this route, Mac OS upgrades are free - typically the come out in the fall - but your Parallels will need to be upgraded at a cost ($50 +/-).

I usually wait four years or so to upgrade (same price for Parallels, just paid once.)


45 posted on 06/11/2018 2:45:45 PM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: LaRueLaDue; Still Thinking
> [Unix...] Free. Linux is Unix, for all practical purposes.

Well, close. Linux is a free Unix "work-alike" in most respects, but it is definitely NOT Unix. It was specifically written to NOT be Unix, but rather to function mostly like it.

More to the point, the main difference between Linux and Unix is the kernel -- the innermost part of the operating system. They are completely different, but those differences are hidden below the surface of the command and application programs.

Both Linux and Unix use the GNU suite of system commands, and those commands are nearly identical in the two OSes in all respects. Linux and Unix also add their own OS-specific commands to the GNU suite.

The good news is, real Unix is free also, just like Linux. FreeBSD, NetBSD, and others are wonderful operating systems, if you prefer the great stability and security of Unix, and are willing to put up with a limited availability of commercial application software.

In most cases of "I want Unix", Linux is a much better choice, because you get a virtually identical experience from the commandline, and a much richer experience on the desktop.

46 posted on 06/11/2018 3:16:59 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: ducttape45
> I’ll stick with Windows 7 even after MS stops supporting it.

So will I, but I will stop using it to access the internet. I have Linux and MacOS for that -- I'll continue using Win7 for the Windows-only applications.

47 posted on 06/11/2018 3:18:13 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: bgill
> Had my 7 in the shop last week and the guy said he has a lot of customers, like me, who are trying to get ever ounce of life out of their 7 computers because they hate 10. Gates is trying his hardest to run off customers. He already ran off hubby to Linux when an unwanted 10 decided to download into his 7 and murdered it.

I hear ya, and I feel you (and your hubby's) pain.

Worth noting, though -- Bill Gates handed off Microsoft to Steve Ballmer almost two decades ago (2000) and stepped aside. Ballmer screwed things up royally and was eventually replaced by Satya Nadella in 2014, who is doing considerably better. Gates has been out of the picture, as far as any real control of corporate direction, for well over a decade.

48 posted on 06/11/2018 3:23:15 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I know all that you wrote. I have been working with Unix since the early 80s. I am fully aware of what you pointed out.

I just meant that the distinction between Linux and Unix nowadays is so minimal that is it meaningless, when discussing functionality as a desktop OS to an end user.

In the server world, there is a distinction, with difference. But we were talking Windows desktop replacements here, not server OSes.

(As an aside, I am not a rabid Linux supporter. I prefer the BSDs: NetBSD, OpenBSD or FreeBSD. Much more complete, coherent systems than your typical Linux distribution.)


49 posted on 06/11/2018 3:29:26 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue
> ...the distinction between Linux and Unix nowadays is so minimal that is it meaningless, when discussing functionality as a desktop OS to an end user.

This is the only thing you wrote that I might take issue with.

Ref: I've used NetBSD, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, and CentOS/RedHat extensively for 20 years (in the case of NetBSD) and 16 years (in the case of RH). I currently use NetBSD where I need a high-security network OS, and Ubuntu as my desktop OS.

I would not trade away Linux for any of the BSDs, on the desktop. Unix is nowhere near as widely supported by application vendors, meaning you're dependent on compiling your own applications, which I do these days only when necessary. Apt and yum are miles ahead of raw pkgsrc, much as I enjoy rolling my own at times. So I would hesitate to call Linux and Unix indistinguishable -- to a typical desktop user.

But to each their own -- that's the beauty of free and open source software, after all. :-)

FRegards, dayglored

50 posted on 06/11/2018 3:43:18 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: MileHi

You can still buy HP Business machines with Window 7


51 posted on 06/11/2018 7:58:09 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: BBB333
It takes quite a bit of processing, however. The last movie I imported took a total of eight hours, seven with the processor at full-tilt.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if you are throttling on your disk. Next time you rip a disk, take a look at all your cores.I've got 8 cores on my box. If at least 4 of them aren't at 100%, whatever I'm doing is likely I/O bound, not CPU bound. I have a few scripts that I run to process data that will actually max out all 8 cores, but they are really scalable processes.

52 posted on 06/11/2018 9:23:57 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Java4Jay

Thanks for that


53 posted on 06/11/2018 9:38:39 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)
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To: zeugma

Thanks.

I just have a dual core processor 2.7. from 2012.

Crunching a 30 GB movie into 4 GB takes some CPU power and I KNOW the CPU is at 100%.

My next box will have heftier capabilities.

Appreciate your thoughts.


54 posted on 06/12/2018 4:21:19 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: BBB333
I just have a dual core processor 2.7. from 2012.

My next box will have heftier capabilities.

Oh yeah. You should see a big boost.

55 posted on 06/12/2018 6:22:27 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: zeugma

Yes. It’s mostly a home theater PC (it’s a Mac Mini) that runs 24/7 and serves the home for music and movies.

Really a great little box.


56 posted on 06/12/2018 6:29:07 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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