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2016: If Hillary Is Indicted, President Clinton Could Pardon Herself and Congress Might be Helpless
https://lawandcrime.com ^ | October 28th, 2016 | Chris White

Posted on 06/04/2018 9:31:01 PM PDT by Beowulf9

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To: DoughtyOne

The president is above the law as it should be less impeachment. The house of representatives is the voice of the people and if we have a rouge president it is the grand jury. The Senate is the Jury of conviction or not. To convict in the Senate needs 60 votes as it should.

This is good. This is very good. Only will the most egregious president be removed from office by congressional action. The removal of a President through history has been at the ballot box as it should.

President Clinton was a vile man in office. He was a multiple perjurer under oath. His crimes most defiantly reached the legal standards of impeachment. His crimes in reality were not worthy of impeachment in the political reality at that time. He was impeached and it all came to nothing because the economy was doing well. He got a political pass.


21 posted on 06/04/2018 10:56:49 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

It’s not worth arguing over at this point, and I’m not seeking to infer there’s much to argue about here anyway.

Hyde was the driving force in the House at that time. As soon as the articles of impeachment were declared, it was obvious they ran from the most egregious actions of the president.

Dole refused to hold impeachment hearings. That was the end of that.

For the articles that were listed, I don’t think there was anything worthy of removing a president for.

I don’t remember them, just that take on them. Someone may be able to dig them up easily and make a case for them. I might agree with their take on them too.

My impression was that they were quite weak, and that’s pretty much all I remember now.


22 posted on 06/04/2018 11:02:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: InterceptPoint

“2. The President can pardon anyone who has been indicted or convicted of a crime.”

There does not have to be an indictment, conviction, or a charge. There does not even need to be a specific charge. It can be for “any crimes” between certain dates.


23 posted on 06/04/2018 11:07:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes you can. Look at the pardon of Nixon as an example.

“Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.”

No named crime was needed.


24 posted on 06/04/2018 11:16:28 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: cpdiii

Well stated.


25 posted on 06/04/2018 11:20:31 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

Thanks for the catch. That would seem to cover it, wouldn’t it.

I wonder if it would have protected him against a charge of murder.

That would not have been a crime against the United States. It would be a crime against a private citizen.

Knowing Hillary the list of things would have been about 75 pages long, but if worded right, you may have proven it wouldn’t be necessary. I agree.


26 posted on 06/04/2018 11:24:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne

Her self pardon would probably list her endless crimes but blatantly say that conservatives forced her to commit them for the sake America. LOL


27 posted on 06/04/2018 11:46:23 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: txnativegop

LOL, I’m sure she would.


28 posted on 06/04/2018 11:53:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Beowulf9

Brilliantl post!


29 posted on 06/05/2018 12:43:08 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: Beowulf9

FLASH NEWS UPDATE!!!

Hillary lost the election and will never be anything more than a bloated, bitter, whining ankle biter.


30 posted on 06/05/2018 2:26:28 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (The only trannie I want to see is a Muncie 4 Speed M-22 Rock Crusher)
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To: Beowulf9

Pardoning yourself is ok if you’re a Dem.. just doesn’t work for anyone else.


31 posted on 06/05/2018 3:25:15 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: Beowulf9

Sauce for the goose

Is sauce for the gander


32 posted on 06/05/2018 3:32:11 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Beowulf9
HOLY SHIT .... THAT'S IT . !!!!!

Billy Bumpo pardoned her before he left office for all wrongdoing past, present and future and the pardon is locked up and sealed, but everyone in the swamp knows it exists.

THAT'S the only answer I can come up with as to why the beotch ain't in orange.

33 posted on 06/05/2018 3:48:59 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: heights

if you bother to listen to them


34 posted on 06/05/2018 4:05:20 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: knarf

As bizarre as the political world is, it wouldn’t surprise me.


35 posted on 06/05/2018 4:56:08 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I just shared the article on FB and put up a snarky remark to the MSM about it.


36 posted on 06/05/2018 5:23:01 AM PDT by fedupjohn (The Alpha Male Chosen By The People to #MAGA....President Trump...)
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To: Beowulf9
Any info on the background of the writer? I clicked on his name, but only more articles popped up.

The article states it's an opinion piece.

37 posted on 06/05/2018 5:24:57 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: DesertRhino
There does not have to be an indictment, conviction, or a charge. There does not even need to be a specific charge. It can be for “any crimes” between certain dates.

How do you have a crime without an indictment or conviction or charge??

38 posted on 06/05/2018 5:29:18 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Dole refused to hold impeachment hearings. That was the end of that."

Actually, it was Trent "Power Sharing" Lott who was majority leader at the time, and told Henry Hyde: "You're not going to dump this garbage on us."

39 posted on 06/05/2018 5:50:03 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Kickass Conservative

PDJT is lightyears ahead of the media.


40 posted on 06/05/2018 6:24:23 AM PDT by barbarianbabs
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