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To: ml/nj

I am one of the last of a dying breed — old Mainframers who understood Production Disciplines, Test Cycles (real ones, not the nonsense that passes for it these days), and so much more.

The kids of today (anyone under 50) just slap-dash and deploy. True for MS and certainly true for websites.

I work with an ERP and INEVITABLY there is no or little documentation (much less approval chains) for mission critical application changes.

For the last 20 years it has been like being in a sea of children.


9 posted on 05/31/2018 4:02:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: freedumb2003
Things have changd. They don't allow coders to code anymore. You are now required to glue together "frameworks". If you spend time writing maintainable code you are deemed to be wasting time. Another problem is everyone wants the latest features from the latest framework. That's especially true with javascript on the browser, but the server side suffers as well. To say the browser javascript frameworks are unmaintainable piles of crap would be generous.

Finally there are more security concerns. Code would be more secure if programmers understood how the frameworks work. But they don't. Instead they rely on the framework creators to find and fix the security holes. But often they don't even know how it really works. There is now too much unnecessary complexity driven by feature creep.

15 posted on 05/31/2018 4:13:12 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: freedumb2003; palmer; House Atreides

See my #33.

It’s a disease enveloping the entire industry.


35 posted on 05/31/2018 5:32:53 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: freedumb2003

Embrace devops.


69 posted on 06/01/2018 5:46:02 AM PDT by pas
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