[OldMissileer]

It is much harder to sit there and pay attention when you aren’t having to actually control the car than when you are.

You are so right.

I have had to drive on many long cross-country trips from the time I was 18. I love to drive and still can do 1100+ miles per day if I have a need and not be in any way tired, but put me in a position where I am not the driver and I am tired and non-attentive within an hour.

[cyclotic]

I’m the same way. I’m rarely a passenger. Maybe 500 miles a year, at best. I drive 30-40,000 a year.

When my kids had their permits, the first couple weeks were filled with panic and sheer terror, after that, it was hard to pay attention enough to even stay awake. I looked and didn’t see anything that said the parent had to stay awake.