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PSA: Here’s how to check for – and remove – the Mac malware mshelper
9 to 5 Mac ^ | May. 18th 2018 4:36 am PT | By Ben Lovejoy

Posted on 05/18/2018 2:19:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Drew68

Yep. Windows users are use to it. Mac users are led to for years saying it’s the OS fault of it gets malware. Too bad they didn’t spend their time educating users instead of lying to them.


21 posted on 05/18/2018 3:28:15 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: Drew68

I’ve been using windows even longer. I never had a virus even though many more were created for it due to the install base. But I guess that means it’s completely safe for everyone by your logic.


22 posted on 05/18/2018 3:31:15 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: SeaDragon

I actually have been working it out with Mac Tech Support. I just updated my system software and was going to get them to help me get rid of MacKeeper. I can send you the transcript if you want to follow it.


23 posted on 05/18/2018 3:37:53 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love Bull Markets!)
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To: Swordmaker

Doesn’t show up my iMac?


24 posted on 05/18/2018 3:40:06 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: Swordmaker

I bought Norton about 25 years ago. Have not had it around for decades.

I have. never bought a virus software ...
I don’t know how I got it. Last night we went through a huge process and their tech was was shocked it was still on my computer. In fact .... it no longer beeps but it comes on and says “be sure and keep your Mac safe and clean”. You agree and it goes away for an hour or 3 .... them comes back. I am going to get rid of it.

I have Malware Bytes which Apple uses and their scan says my computer “is clean” ... so it sneaked past them.


25 posted on 05/18/2018 3:43:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love Bull Markets!)
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks for the info. I checked, and I’m clean.


26 posted on 05/18/2018 3:45:00 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: Swordmaker

It prompts me to buy it. It is essentially an ad.

It is not the software.


27 posted on 05/18/2018 3:45:37 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love Bull Markets!)
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To: Swordmaker

I’ll try that ... I was on Apple’s tech support for a long time last night. I had to update Sierra so I’ll go back tonight or tomorrow.

I’ll let you know how it turns out.


28 posted on 05/18/2018 3:47:17 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love Bull Markets!)
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To: for-q-clinton

I was forced to used PCs for years at the office. They always had viruses ... porn, disgusting filth.

I’ve never experienced that on a Mac. You could not pay me enough to buy and use a PC. Too much trouble and downtime.


29 posted on 05/18/2018 3:49:59 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love Bull Markets!)
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To: TexasGator
You are the expert. Are you staking your reputation on the above statement?

Show us a self-transmitting, self-propagating, self-installing viable computer virus for a modern macOS. . . please. One that DOES NOT require participation of the user or anyone at the computer. In the 20 years of OSX's existence, now macOS, there have been SEVEN candidates proposed for such a virus. ALL have failed for lack of a viable vector.

While the code of these candidates would RUN on OSX, they could not find a means of transmission from Mac to Mac, or from any computer to a Mac. 2013s Clapzok.A was the last candidate that comes to mind, a cross platform 32 bit proof of concept virus that would infect a Windows computer but could not be vectored to a Mac, where could not self-install, but with user help it would run and replicate itself and find other 32 bit executable files in the same directory to infect, but could not spread to another computer unless the user transferred the infected files, making those infected files a form of Trojan.

Yes, Texas, I know there are Trojans out there, in fact there are approximately 148 known Trojans in eight identified Trojan families. Every single one of them will be identified by the OS itself which will warn the user before it will allow the user to continue to download, install, or first run the Trojan, requiring that user to provide an administrator's name and password to continue the dangerous behavior. Trojans are NOT, by definition, true computer viruses.

I am also aware of malware that can be installed through the USB or Thunderbolt ports from poisoned devices designed to alter the I/O or even System firmware. That is little different from a Trojan as it requires the action of a user. Apple has blocked any firmware or specific core system component changes by adding a passcode which must be input from the keyboard that is different from the admin password before any change is permitted.

So, Tex, where is that viable macOS/OSX virus you think exists? I'd be really interested in seeing it.

By the way, I manage an installation of over two dozen Macs in a business environment, all without antivirusware for over twenty years. Not a single malware has ever invaded those Macs.

30 posted on 05/18/2018 4:16:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Yardstick
I occasionally get annoying MacKeeper pop-under ads. Would that be due to an adware infection on my Mac or just coming from websites?

Another form of ad. Irritating, but nothing installed on your Mac.

31 posted on 05/18/2018 4:18:09 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Doesn’t show up my iMac?

If it's not there, you don't have it. So, no worries. I didn't either.

32 posted on 05/18/2018 4:21:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: BunnySlippers
It prompts me to buy it. It is essentially an ad.

It is not the software.

I've been seeing it more and more from sites I click on from Drudge!

33 posted on 05/18/2018 4:23:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

Good to know — thanks. What’s galling is that it forces you to close your browser. This gives it a malicious edge that’s different from typical pop under ads. Seems like a strange advertising approach to start by pizzing off the customer but apparently it works for them.


34 posted on 05/18/2018 4:43:44 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Swordmaker

The only way to be sure is to install Windows 10 : )


35 posted on 05/18/2018 4:49:53 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Yardstick

Good to know — thanks. What’s galling is that it forces you to close your browser. This gives it a malicious edge that’s different from typical pop under ads. Seems like a strange advertising approach to start by pizzing off the customer but apparently it works for them.

Some websites are getting absurdly overloaded with ads. Pop-up. Pop-unders. It gets to where the content is almost overwhelmed by ads. I’ve begun investigating the Brave browser as an alternative.

https://brave.com


36 posted on 05/18/2018 5:03:09 PM PDT by Flick Lives (Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation.)
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To: Swordmaker

Bfl


37 posted on 05/18/2018 5:26:00 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: Swordmaker

It’s weird, my service provider is an old, old also-ran ISP. Within the last week, once I log in to check to check e-mail, the a new tab opens with the MacKeeper ads. I don’t click anything in the tab, I close and it boots me out of webmail. So I go back and it does it again. After a dozen or so tries, it seems to stop.

And yes, I’ve see it on a few sites that I surfed to from Drudge. I close the tab and forget the story.

Sent a note to my ISP about it. Hopefully they’ll drop MacKeeper ASAP as an advertiser.


38 posted on 05/18/2018 5:38:36 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Swordmaker

bump


39 posted on 05/18/2018 7:45:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: BunnySlippers

That would be great!

Thank you so much.


40 posted on 05/19/2018 10:30:49 AM PDT by SeaDragon ("Life is tough ..... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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