Harper’s Weekly – May 15, 1858

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[Homer_J_Simpson]

Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed. To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.

Link to previous thread

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Hon. Jacob Collamer, of Vermont – 2-3
Contents – 3
Home and Rest – 4
Editorials – 4-5
The Lounger – 5-7
Travel Notes in Bible Lands – 8-10
Rev. John M’Clintock, D.D. – 10-12
Salt Lake City and Its Environs – 13-15
Grace Before Meals – 15
Lost Alice – 16-18
The “Susquehanna” and Her Last Cruise – 19-20
Miscellany – 21-22

Jacob Collamer Wikipedia page

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from April 26 (reply #4) .

Abraham Lincoln: Speeches and Writings 1832-1858, edited by Don E. Fehrenbacher

[Tax-chick]

I wish I had the “Bible Lands” columns in a book I could take on the treadmill. The series seems to cover roughly the same ground as Gertrude Bell’s “The Desert and the Sown,” published about 50 years after.

[Tax-chick]

On page 11, there’s a small ad for “Bass’s East India Pale Ale” which seems very contemporary: I think Bill the Son drinks that.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Interesting read on allowing citizenship for Chinese.

While I certainly understand the concern over diversity, I totally object to the statement that the Constitution clearly denies citizenship to blacks or Chinese. It says no such thing.

[This I Wonder32460]

Somewhere hidden away my parents have original copies of the centennial additions of Harper’s Weekly.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

I wonder what clause they believe denies citizenship to negroes and Chinese and if the matter was clarified by the Civil War amendments.

[Tax-chick]

Perhaps they're relying on the interpretation in the Dred Scott case, which held that a black person has no legal rights. The "reasoning" in that case could be applied to Chinese easily enough.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

That’s right. The answer to my question no doubt lies in my posts from last year when the Dred Scott decision was handed down.

[the OlLine Rebel]

But the article actually states that the Constitution clearly states so.

There is nothing about that in the Constitution.

And the Dred Scott is mentioned separately, but not as if it quoted the Constitution where it says no negroes or Chinese...or FTM that only white people are allowed.

[Buckeye McFrog]

And they never had to place a shield over the front cover at the checkout stand.

[Tax-chick]

I suggest the article is simply in error. Perhaps the writer hasn't actually read the Constitution and simply believes it contains this provision, based on his knowledge of the Dred Scott ruling. It's similar to belief in the Constitution's granting a "right to abortion" based on Roe v. Wade, even though the Constitution says absolutely nothing even remotely to that effect.

Penumbras and emanations.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from May 11 (reply #14).

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

[Tax-chick]

George, you’re going to wish you’d just gone to Newport.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from February 14 (reply #10) .

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Nicole Etcheson, Bleeding Kansas: Contested Liberty in the Civil War Era

[Homer_J_Simpson]

[Continued from May 17 (reply #14).]

May 20. . . . Suicide of Herbert (“Frank Forester”), an ancient sporting pal of Tom Griffing and Fred Anthon, whose brother Phil all but witnessed the act. Herbert was an uncommonly poor devil but a man of very scholarly culture, and there are elements of profoundest tragedy in the transaction.*

The ambrosial Hurlbut has gone to Europe at last.

*Henry William Herbert (1807-1858), prolific and talented English-born writer, now best remembered for his books on field sports and horses, had made an unhappy marriage, and been deserted by his wife.

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

[Tax-chick]

How sad.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Very sad.

Henry William Herbert Wikipedia page.

"He was staying at the Stevens Hotel in Manhattan, New York City and invited several men to dine with him on what would be the last night of his life. Only one gentleman accepted his invention, Philip Hone Anthon, a pupil of Herbert's, who most likely accepted the invitation due to Herbert's plea that he was very lonely, after which he begged Anthon to spend as much time as possible with him. Herbert took his own life on 17 May 1858 at 2:00 am."

[Tax-chick]

Edgar Allan Poe felt that he was "not unapt to fall into pompous grandiloquence" and sometimes was "woefully turgid", while others saw his novels as "prolix, lacking in imagination and humor."

Yeah, well, Edgar, takes one to know one.

I checked a mystery novel out of the library the other day which features E.A. Poe detecting along with his character Auguste Dupin. Haven't started it yet.