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The Evidence for Noah's Flood
Depths of Pentecost ^ | May 12, 2018 | Philip Cottraux

Posted on 05/12/2018 4:35:00 PM PDT by pcottraux

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To: pcottraux

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This foolishness has to stop soon.

There is nothing on Earth that is not strong evidence of the flood.

Things like the ark itself and all the anchor stones in the surrounding area should be enough, but they are actually the least of the evidence.

The glaciers that once covered a large portion of the land mass could only have been the result of the hot ocean that remained immediately after the land mass divided.

The fossil layers could only be the result of a flood and numerous collisions of large land masses.

That civilization arose such a short distance from the final resting place of the Ark is also hard to ignore.
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41 posted on 05/12/2018 9:20:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

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Try reading what the word really says for a change.
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42 posted on 05/12/2018 9:22:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

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>> “How did they feed all those animals on the ark for 7 months?” <<

That is explained in the word. they had six pairs of every clean animal, and one pair of each unclean animal.
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43 posted on 05/12/2018 9:25:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: djf

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Fairy tales.
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44 posted on 05/12/2018 9:27:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pcottraux

One of my biggest questions about the flood is this?

Where did black people come from?

From all accounts, the flood is reputed to have occurred some time between 3000 BC and 2300 BC. That is from 5000 to 4300 years ago.

Given that Noah was directly descended from Adam, and nobody in Noah’s family had black skin, how is it that people in Africa developed black skin in under 3000 years. We know that the Roman armies captured black prisoners from Africa and brought them back to Italy. So sometime in the 3000 years between the flood and Rome’s African conquests, Noah’s descendants in Africa developed black skin.

Can somebody please explain to me how that is possible. Because humans have not physically evolved much in the 2000 years since then. We have generally gotten taller, but I can’t think of many changes besides that.

So how was it that Noah’s descendants evolved from olive skinned people to Nigerian black in just 3000 years? I have always wanted somebody to explain this to me in provable scientific terms.


45 posted on 05/12/2018 9:27:45 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: Windflier

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It was 4500 years ago.

The universe and time itself were created 6000 years ago.


46 posted on 05/12/2018 9:29:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pcottraux
From Genesis 1:1 through the next 11 chapters there are two floods described... The first flood described is in Genesis 1:2... The purpose of the first flood was the casting down of the ‘devil’... you know that ‘hero’ Alinsky speaks of in his dedication in the book Rules for Radicals? (The phrase ‘foundation of the world’ , used by Christ and Paul come from the Greek word ‘katabolle’, and it means ‘casting down - overthrow.) One must go to Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 to get those details...of the over throw of the devil, although Peter describes it in IIPeter 3, and Jeremiah in chapter 4.

Noah's flood was for a specific cause ... Only Noah and his family were NOT infiltrated by the ‘sons of God’... Noah and his family were pure ... meaning the predesignated blood line to Christ would be preserved.

I find the ‘local flood’ theory plausible, given the dove found a ‘green olive leaf’ and that finding was not described as a miracle planting... It would take far longer than 150 days on the ark for an olive tree to be producing green leaves.

47 posted on 05/12/2018 9:29:39 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: editor-surveyor

Spiders are unclean so they had 35,000 pairs of spiders? As well as 12,000 pairs of ants?

Is that what you are saying?

There are actually 950,000 species of insects. Even flying insects could not survive for 7 months outside the arc due to the earth being completely covered by water and having no place for insects to land.

So you are saying Noah house and fed all 950,000 species of insects on the ark. That is quite a feat to house and feed all those insects for 7 months.


48 posted on 05/12/2018 9:31:01 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: editor-surveyor
. It was 4500 years ago. The universe and time itself were created 6000 years ago.

Poppycock... This earth is filled with evidence that it is millions if not billions of years old.

49 posted on 05/12/2018 9:32:58 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: pcottraux

This is the magazine and, in fact, has black and white photos of the excavations.


50 posted on 05/12/2018 9:51:10 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

How do you know Adam or Noah had “white”skin...or was not darker skinned? There is no mention of their skin color in the biblical documents.


51 posted on 05/12/2018 11:12:30 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Windflier
That theory was deduced through pure mathematics, not direct observation, as in classical physics.

Just an aside to this discussion: while the theory was deduced through pure mathematics, the effect has been directly observed. One good example is the GPS satellite navigation system: to summarize, the entire thing works on VERY accurate clocks (atomic clocks with nanosecond accuracy). The high velocity of the satellites relative to the earth while (very much) below the speed of light, nonetheless introduces the predicted relativistic effects which are corrected using Einstein's equations.

52 posted on 05/13/2018 3:11:37 AM PDT by billakay
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To: pcottraux

[snip]... you may have heard that Robert Ballard (the same guy who discovered the Titanic) has proposed an alternate explanation for the flood legends. In 1999, he came forward with the claim that the creation of the Black Sea was the inspiration for the tale of Noah. According to his theory, this vast body of water was a small freshwater lake in a large fertile basin about 8,000 years ago, when suddenly a natural disaster caused a sudden inflow of salt water. Early humans who fled the incoming deluge concocted the story of the ark. [/snip]

Ballard didn’t propose this, William Ryan and Walter Pitman theorized it based on seafloor evidence and cores from the Black Sea. And they didn’t say the Ark story was concocted, they followed in many footsteps and claimed the OT authors merely plagiarized the entire Deluge story during the Babylonian Exile. Hope that helps.

http://www.google.com/search?q=ryan+and+pitman+site:freerepublic.com


53 posted on 05/13/2018 7:42:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: lizma2; pcottraux

Black Sea, not the Caspian.


54 posted on 05/13/2018 7:58:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: editor-surveyor
The universe and time itself were created 6000 years ago.

That's a belief, not a scientific fact. It's a good thing that we're all free to choose whichever makes sense to us.

55 posted on 05/13/2018 8:02:15 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; Getready
How do you know Adam or Noah had “white”skin...or was not darker skinned?
Flipping the question doesn't solve the problem, just misses the point completely, probably what it was designed to do.

56 posted on 05/13/2018 8:17:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Getready

Alright, then if Noah and his family had darker skin then where did white people come from?

My point is, how did one racially monolithic family create white, black, and asian people in just 3000 years, when they haven’t changed in the past 2000 years?


57 posted on 05/13/2018 9:59:39 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Ballard didn’t propose this, William Ryan and Walter Pitman theorized it based on seafloor evidence and cores from the Black Sea.

I knew that William Ryan and Walter Pitman first came up with the idea, but I couldn't remember their names (and decided it was too off-topic to research further). But I do remember Ballard playing a large role in investigation. In fact, I can even remember him holding a dramatic press conference and announcing to the world "We have discovered Noah's flood at the bottom of the Black Sea!"

And they didn’t say the Ark story was concocted, they followed in many footsteps and claimed the OT authors merely plagiarized the entire Deluge story during the Babylonian Exile.

I wasn't referring exactly to the Noah story, but as I recall, their claim was that all of the flood legends originate in the Black Sea deluge (which I dispute). I believe that the Babylonian Exile story was their attempt to explain the origins of Genesis (a claim I find very problematic, but again, that's getting off-topic...).

58 posted on 05/13/2018 12:05:23 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

The flood was either local, or maybe God changed the color of people’s skins (as well as their language) at the tower of Babel. Who really knows?


59 posted on 05/13/2018 12:08:11 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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To: Windflier
The geological and archaeological evidence is irrefutable. Sometime between 11,500 and 12,500 years ago, sea levels suddenly rose by 300 feet, worldwide.

I've heard that before, as well as that there is evidence at both the North and South poles of a huge surge in water levels at about the same time, indicating that a great flood happened somewhere in this time.

OTOH, some Old Earthers have claimed that this isn't the flood of Noah, but Earth in its water-covered state at Genesis 1:2, immediately following the fall of Lucifer a mass extinction took place and wiped everything out.

Not saying that that's true, but there's all sorts of weird mysteries from Earth's past that make for fascinating discussion...

60 posted on 05/13/2018 12:10:49 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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