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Distorted neutron stars give up secrets of dense nuclear matter
Physics World - Stars and solar physics ^ | 3 May, 2018 | Sam Jarman

Posted on 05/04/2018 6:28:20 PM PDT by MtnClimber

New insights into the properties of neutron stars have come from two independent analyses of gravitational waves from the GW170817 neutron-star merger. The work was done by teams led by Farrukh Fattoyev at Indiana University Bloomington and Eemeli Annala at the University of Helsinki. The teams used different methods to calculate the relationship between the radius and mass of neutron stars and came up with the same result.

In October 2017 the LIGO and Virgo detectors made the first-ever observation of gravitational waves from two neutron stars as they spiralled into each other and then merged to form a black hole. The observation is also notable as the first time that electromagnetic radiation was detected from a gravitational-wave event.

GW170817 offers astrophysicists new and exciting information about the equation of state (EOS) of neutron stars. The EOS describes the complex behaviour of the dense nuclear matter that makes up neutron stars. Little is currently known about the EOS because it is difficult to glean information from conventional astronomical observations and because theoretical calculations of dense nuclear matter are extremely difficult to do. Before GW170817, the most important piece of information about the EOS came from observations published in 2010 and 2013, which showed that neutron stars can have masses at least as large as two solar masses.

Tidal distortions

Just before the GW170817 neutron stars merged, the shapes of both stars are distorted by their mutual gravitational attraction – with the nature of the distortion being defined by the EOS. This tidal distortion affects the gravitational waves emitted by the pair, which means that careful analysis of LIGO-Virgo data should provide valuable information about the EOS.

(Excerpt) Read more at physicsworld.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: gravitationwaves; stringtheory
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1 posted on 05/04/2018 6:28:20 PM PDT by MtnClimber
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Interesting that two teams, using different methods, and came up with the same answer.


2 posted on 05/04/2018 6:29:16 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For phtos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
"Interesting that two teams, using different methods, and came up with the same answer."

That (unlike "AGW") is called, Good Science"!!

3 posted on 05/04/2018 7:43:31 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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To: TXnMA

This is just as junky as AGW.


4 posted on 05/04/2018 8:45:40 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: thoughtomator
"This is just as junky as AGW."

I'm a physical chemist (heavy on the physics and materials science).

What are your qualifications for making the above statement?

5 posted on 05/04/2018 9:51:22 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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Thanks MtnClimber.

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6 posted on 05/04/2018 10:39:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: MtnClimber
first-ever observation of electromagnetic radiation was detected from a gravitational-wave event

Very interesting...

The October 2017 article was interesting as well. Thanks!

Spectacular collision of two neutron stars observed for first time

7 posted on 05/04/2018 11:23:49 PM PDT by eldoradude (Walk a mile in a man's shoes and he'll never catch you.)
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To: TXnMA

My qualification is a proven ability to sniff out obfuscatory bullshit. LIGO is a fraud.


8 posted on 05/05/2018 2:01:47 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: thoughtomator
This is just as junky as AGW.

"This" just has science behind it.

AGW is pseudoscience that comes with a whole progressive Leftard political agenda.

9 posted on 05/05/2018 2:14:33 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

LIGO has the ability to produce fraudulent data built into it, on purpose.

Hard to make it more obvious than they have. Anyone who takes a skeptical approach can see the fnords all over the place here.


10 posted on 05/05/2018 2:29:53 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: MtnClimber

The EOS describes the complex behaviour of the dense nuclear matter that makes up neutron stars.

...

My impression is it spits out a simple value like the radius.


11 posted on 05/05/2018 2:54:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: thoughtomator

LIGO has the ability to produce fraudulent data built into it, on purpose.

Hard to make it more obvious than they have. Anyone who takes a skeptical approach can see the fnords all over the place here.

...

You should write a paper on it, so smart people can tell you how crazy you are.


12 posted on 05/05/2018 2:55:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: thoughtomator
Since you're so smart, you should have turned consultant and spoken up. Could have saved a bunch of folks freezin' their butts off down at the BICEP site...

No doubt, they would have traded their PhDs for your "sniffer"... Apparently, you must have sniffed in a lot of bullshit -- you're full of it...

13 posted on 05/05/2018 2:55:33 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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To: thoughtomator

My qualification is a proven ability to sniff out obfuscatory bullshit. LIGO is a fraud.

...

You have a proven ability to make yourself look like a nut.


14 posted on 05/05/2018 2:56:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62

You and the other guy sound exactly like the AGW freaks sounded like when I called BS on their scam many many years ago.

So far the arguments against my assertion include credentialism, ad hominem, and “trust us”.

If your position is to uncritically accept unreproducable results from a source which fully admits to having a built-in fraudulent data generator, you may just be the nutty one in this conversation.


15 posted on 05/05/2018 3:04:03 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: TXnMA
That was a quick abandonment of all pretense to scientific inquiry. The self-awareness gap to not be able to see how you are now behaving precisely as the AGW crowd does is extraordinary.
16 posted on 05/05/2018 3:07:49 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: thoughtomator

So I’m supposed to uncritically accept your assertions instead?

I would say my arguments against you are much better than your arguments against them.


17 posted on 05/05/2018 3:11:25 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62

As a bystander, I would have to agree with you science guys about the detractors credentials - for one he calls LIGO ‘a fraud’ but fails to mention the Virgo or why it is also a fraud.

I was really attracted to his full and complete explanation why LIGO is worthless - I am so lucky to have read it and his mention of ‘fnords’ - otherwise I would not have been able to capture the essence of the deliberate fakery by the Illuminati !!


18 posted on 05/05/2018 6:13:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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LIGO amazingly detected an event with gravitational waves before it was detected with visible light. The visible light detection confirmed LIGO’s observation and also confirmed that gravitational waves travel at the speed of light.

LIGO is one of the top scientific and engineering accomplishments of the human race.


19 posted on 05/05/2018 6:57:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: thoughtomator
AH! But, you didn't read what I really meant!

Blow it up a little, and then highlight everything from the last dot, down to the bottom of the pane... Look closely...

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<GRIN> That was a more scientific -- and to the point -- answer than yours!

20 posted on 05/05/2018 7:40:47 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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