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Did Star Wars Jump the Shark Or Was It Devoured by Parasites?
Liberty Island Magazine ^ | 04/23/2018 | Tamara Wilhite

Posted on 04/23/2018 4:11:24 PM PDT by tbw2

I like both Star Wars and Star Trek. I’ve seen all of the Star Wars and Star Trek movies, and while watching the kids, even saw a number of Clone Wars cartoon episodes. I’ve seen most episodes of Star Trek, every series, though I’ve barely been able to watch Star Trek: Discovery except the Mirror Universe episodes. I say this so that my criticism is not mistaken for “you just don’t like the franchises.”

And I think modern politics and shifts in storytelling are hurting both science fiction universes.

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KEYWORDS: sciencefiction; scifi; sjw
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To: ExGeeEye

I’ll list that as a maybe. I’m afraid they’ll take the anti-hero modeled on “Shane” and take him down a few notches per liberal social justice mandates. That he is stupid, weak, or incompetent compared to all the women around him who are so much smarter, better, and stronger than him.

That’s why you can’t find a strong, decent, intelligent father in any sitcoms today unless he’s non-white.

It is why the only smart, competent and strong white guys in most cinema is either a villain or only supported by a diverse cast that has to get all the credit.


41 posted on 04/23/2018 5:11:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Fiji Hill

“They jumped the shark when they made Star Wars II in 1980.”

As much as I like the originals, the first was a fun B-movie in terms of quality at best, and is utterly absurd to say that ESB was a “jump the shark” moment.

Without ESB and ROTJ, ANH would have been a cult classic at best.


42 posted on 04/23/2018 5:11:54 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: edh

The main problem with the new Star Treks is they blow up the Enterprise in every movie. I still liked them better than the recent Star Wars though.


43 posted on 04/23/2018 5:12:34 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: OpusatFR

Agreed. Rey can do everything better than everyone else once she’s in touch with her inner superiority.


44 posted on 04/23/2018 5:13:09 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

You’ll laugh
You’ll Cry
You’ll kiss $3.50 good-bye!


45 posted on 04/23/2018 5:14:25 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: mewzilla

Ended by Ewoks.

Buried by Jar Jar.


46 posted on 04/23/2018 5:14:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: dsrtsage
Star wars died in the 80’s when Return of the Muppet came out.

The prequels do not even deserve the title “movie”

I could not even get through the first 20 minutes of the SJW releases.

Agree with everything you said.

47 posted on 04/23/2018 5:20:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Simon Green
I disagree. "The Empire Strikes Back" is arguably better than "Star Wars".

It was the only sequel with any redeeming merit, but it certainly was not better than Star Wars.

48 posted on 04/23/2018 5:25:42 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: tbw2
I finally saw “The Force Awakens” which is now on basic cable.

I thought Daisy Ridley (Rey) was quite good, and I liked her and her character.

I was uneasy about John Boyega (Finn) at first because I assumed he was the Affirmative Action hire, but I think he did a credible job.

It looks like Rey and Finn are destined for a romantic relationship, so it remains to be seen if they can bring the necessary emotions for that. Previous Star Wars films were just terrible at Romance, namely, Natalie Portman and what's-his-name.

I thought Oscar Isaac (Poe) is not quite good enough for his part. Bottom Line - I have zero emotional involvement with his character. Are Poe and Finn destined to become rivals for the hand of Lady Rey?

Kylo Ren is terrible. The character is unconvincing, and the acting (Adam Driver) is unacceptably weak.

In any event, I still liked the movie, and I watched it twice from beginning to end.

I have heard that “The Last Jedi” is Social Justice Warrior crap.

49 posted on 04/23/2018 5:29:33 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: x
But I don't think one can blame whatever's wrong in the current series on political correctness. Make everybody White and the movies wouldn't be any better.

No, they wouldn't, but that doesn't mean political correctness did not contribute quite a lot to how bad they were.

I don't think female warriors resonate with the 14 year old boy demographic, (which is supposedly the target audience for this sort of stuff) at least not in the way of "I want to be like her."

Boys want to see heroes that they can imagine are them. They want to be inspired by someone for whom they can suspend disbelief that they are not this person doing heroic deeds on the screen.

50 posted on 04/23/2018 5:31:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

If Leia would have suddenly popped in a small, soundless pink mist as she got blown out into space during the slow speed chase, it would have improved things.


51 posted on 04/23/2018 5:34:07 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: x

It seems like I read an article in which George Lucas is quoted as saying he modeled the rebels after the Viet Cong. Are you saying this is disputed?


52 posted on 04/23/2018 5:34:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; rockrr
It seems like I read an article in which George Lucas is quoted as saying he modeled the rebels after the Viet Cong. Are you saying this is disputed?

I'm not saying anything was disputed. I'm saying that there was always politics of a sort in the movies and people always saw politics in the movies.

I don't think female warriors resonate with the 14 year old boy demographic, (which is supposedly the target audience for this sort of stuff) at least not in the way of "I want to be like her."

Is that the only way things resonate? I never wanted to be Luke Skywalker or Princess Leia or even Han Solo, but I still enjoyed the pictures. If enough things get blown up it hardly matters which good guy does it.

53 posted on 04/23/2018 5:43:23 PM PDT by x
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To: x

I never wanted to be Princess Leia but there was a time when I wanted to butter her buns...


54 posted on 04/23/2018 5:55:50 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: zeestephen

Finn’s ideal character arc of dying against the regime was interrupted by Rose’s stupid sacrifice that, if Mary Sue had not come to the rescue, would have killed all of her friends.


55 posted on 04/23/2018 6:00:25 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: packrat35

After all the hype of Phasma, I would have liked to see more of her than yell, fall to fiery death.


56 posted on 04/23/2018 6:01:17 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: RinaseaofDs

Like “I Dream of Genie”?


57 posted on 04/23/2018 6:04:57 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Lucasfilm hired Kathleen Kennedy as CEO, she fired the mail Chief writer and replaced him with a black female. That black female head writer fired every male writer on staff and hired women only. No one should be surprised by the disastrous results.


58 posted on 04/23/2018 6:08:00 PM PDT by montag813
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To: VanDeKoik
"Without ESB and ROTJ, ANH would have been a cult classic at best."

Ummmm...no.

"Star Wars was released in theatres in the United States on May 25, 1977. It earned $461 million in the U.S. and $314 million overseas, totaling $775 million. It surpassed Jaws (1975) to become the highest-grossing film of all time until the release of E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982). When adjusted for inflation, Star Wars is the second-highest-grossing film in North America, and the third-highest-grossing film in the world. It received ten Academy Award nominations (including Best Picture), winning seven. It was among the first films to be selected as part of the U.S. Library of Congress' National Film Registry as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant". At the time, it was the most recent film on the registry and the only one chosen from the 1970s. In 2005, the British Film Institute included it in their list of the 50 films you should see by the age of 14. Its soundtrack was added to the U.S. National Recording Registry in 2004. Today, it is regarded as one of the most important films in the history of motion pictures. It launched an industry of tie-in products, including TV series spinoffs, novels, comic books, video games, amusement park attractions, and merchandise including toys, games, and clothing."

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59 posted on 04/23/2018 6:14:35 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: mewzilla

I don’t know because the family guy version was very good.


60 posted on 04/23/2018 6:28:56 PM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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