Posted on 04/20/2018 8:56:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
This has pretty much 0 chance pf passing anyway.
Its probably scheme of them to steal US Senate. If all three newly splitted states are democrats with each sending 2 Senators, the result is bad for GOP and Trump
It should be split in two. This just looks like lefty gerrymandering.
[Can we get this in NYS? Split off the 5 burroughs?]
Oh yes. Then get fracking away upstate.
This would effectively neutralize California's current Democrat Senators and Congresscritters with an equal number of Republican ones.
I said Sacramento and south should not....
I said Sacramento and south should not....
Texas can split into a total of five states actually. It was expressly agreed to as part of the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States, Approved on March 1, 1845:
New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution ....
Basically, the requirement under Article IV Section 3 of the Constitution, that Congress consent to the division of Texas, has already occurred.
Post of the day. I think they will get away wit it.
"This Fall, California Voters Could Decide Whether To Split Their State In Three"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponents Argument
Note that a state cannot be divided into smaller states without the consent of Congress.
"Article IV, Section. 3, Clause 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress [emphases added]."
And given the idea of North Mexico, it can be argued that the Progressive Movement is trying to further destabilize the Union by splitting California into smaller states, putting more Democrats in the Senate.
Note that although the states have expressly constitutionally delegated to Congress the specific power to intervene with renegade states that could destabilize the Union, we cannot expect the corrupt, post-17th Amendment (17A) ratification Congress left over from the lawless Obama Administration to lift a finger to deal with such states.
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections [emphasis added] and repel Invasions;"
This is why patriots need to finish the job that they started when they elected Trump president.
More specifically, patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, patriots who will say no to North Mexico, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to DC on election day.
And until the states wake up and repeal 17A, as evidenced by concerns about the integrity of the outcome of Alabama's and Pennsylvania's special elections, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud, associated MSM scare tactics, and interference from people like Soros.
Hacking Democracy - The Hack
Um, no, the voters of California cannot decide to break their state into any number of states. The US Constitution requires the state legislature to the US Congress to make such decisions. See Article IV, Section 3 if the US Constitution: “New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the junction of any two States, without the consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as the Congress.:
This referendum is NOT THE END but the START of a process.
From the article:
“CAL3 can be passed by a simple majority in November, if it is put on the ballot. If it passes, the state legislature will have to approve the request to divide the state and the governor will have to sign the bill. After that, the request must be approved by the U.S. Congress.”
While the devil is in the details, no single state should be able to get a candidate more than 10% of the way to the Presidency.
Make it two states and just add San Jose, San Francisco, Oakland and Sacramento to what is labeled as California. That would work.
Can the pass with a simple majority in the US House and Senate, or does it require a higher vote?
I see. So Northern California would be conservative with San Francisco and Berkeley? Now you have really confused me. I do see what you meant now, but help me understand how this proposed N. California would be conservative. Thanks.
No Missouri without a Maine.
Split Wyoming three ways, and I’m fine with this.
No. NORTH OF SACRAMENTO. Sacramento is NORTH of San Francisco. We own property in Auburn. Auburn is North Of Sacramento and North Of San Francisco.
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