This Fall, California Voters Could Decide Whether To Split Their State In Three

The Federalist ^ | 04/20/2018 | Tony Lima

[SeekAndFind]

Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper has come up with a scheme to split California into three states, and he’s collected twice as many signatures as he needs to get the proposition on the ballot in November. Some 600,000 Californians have signed his petition, which would allow a vote on whether to split the state into North California, South California and California.

Personally, I would have named the third part Coastal California. Here’s what Draper has in mind:

He has done one thing correctly. He has roughly equalized population among the three regions in his proposal. The effect, however, would be to syphon all the conservatives off into one state — South California — and create two progressive states. In other words, progressives would get four U.S. senators and conservatives just two.

[crusher2013]

This has pretty much 0 chance pf passing anyway.

[Lee25]

Its probably scheme of them to steal US Senate. If all three newly splitted states are democrats with each sending 2 Senators, the result is bad for GOP and Trump

[BlackAdderess]

It should be split in two. This just looks like lefty gerrymandering.

[headstamp 2]

[Can we get this in NYS? Split off the 5 burroughs?]

Oh yes. Then get fracking away upstate.

[Bubba_Leroy]

California should be divided, but only into two states, the red state and the blue state.

This would effectively neutralize California's current Democrat Senators and Congresscritters with an equal number of Republican ones.

[Cobra64]

I said “Sacramento and south should not....”

[Cobra64]

I said “Sacramento and south should not....”

[Bubba_Leroy]

I believe Texas has the right to subdivide into 4 states, should it choose to, in accordance with its original charter accepting it into the union.

Texas can split into a total of five states actually. It was expressly agreed to as part of the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States, Approved on March 1, 1845:

“New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution ....”

Basically, the requirement under Article IV Section 3 of the Constitution, that Congress consent to the division of Texas, has already occurred.

[Nuc 1.1]

Post of the day. I think they will get away wit it.

[Amendment10]

Perhaps Southern California should be named North Mexico.

"This Fall, California Voters Could Decide Whether To Split Their State In Three"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Note that a state cannot be divided into smaller states without the consent of Congress.

"Article IV, Section. 3, Clause 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress [emphases added]."

And given the idea of North Mexico, it can be argued that the Progressive Movement is trying to further destabilize the Union by splitting California into smaller states, putting more Democrats in the Senate.

Note that although the states have expressly constitutionally delegated to Congress the specific power to intervene with renegade states that could destabilize the Union, we cannot expect the corrupt, post-17th Amendment (17A) ratification Congress left over from the lawless Obama Administration to lift a finger to deal with such states.

"Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections [emphasis added] and repel Invasions;"

This is why patriots need to finish the job that they started when they elected Trump president.

More specifically, patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, patriots who will say no to North Mexico, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to DC on election day.

And until the states wake up and repeal 17A, as evidenced by concerns about the integrity of the outcome of Alabama's and Pennsylvania's special elections, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud, associated MSM scare tactics, and interference from people like Soros.

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[MIchaelTArchangel]

Um, no, the voters of California cannot decide to break their state into any number of states. The US Constitution requires the state legislature to the US Congress to make such decisions. See Article IV, Section 3 if the US Constitution: “New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the junction of any two States, without the consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as the Congress.:

[SeekAndFind]

This referendum is NOT THE END but the START of a process.

From the article:

“CAL3 can be passed by a simple majority in November, if it is put on the ballot. If it passes, the state legislature will have to approve the request to divide the state and the governor will have to sign the bill. After that, the request must be approved by the U.S. Congress.”

[lepton]

While the devil is in the details, no single state should be able to get a candidate more than 10% of the way to the Presidency.

[FLT-bird]

Make it two states and just add San Jose, San Francisco, Oakland and Sacramento to what is labeled as “California”. That would work.

[theoilpainter]

Can the pass with a simple majority in the US House and Senate, or does it require a higher vote?

[Codeflier]

I see. So Northern California would be conservative with San Francisco and Berkeley? Now you have really confused me. I do see what you meant now, but help me understand how this proposed N. California would be conservative. Thanks.

[Jim Noble]

No Missouri without a Maine.

Split Wyoming three ways, and I’m fine with this.

[Cobra64]

No. NORTH OF SACRAMENTO. Sacramento is NORTH of San Francisco. We own property in Auburn. Auburn is North Of Sacramento and North Of San Francisco.