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To: Bender2; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

“Starship Troopers” was ok (at least it was when I was younger, I haven’t seen it ages). Co-ed showers.

Of course I never read the novel so I have no basis to slam it as a poor adaptation. Wikipedia says they basically took an unrelated script and slapped the “Starship Troopers” brand on it.


48 posted on 04/11/2018 3:13:04 AM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy
Re: Of course I never read the novel...

Gadzooks, Imp!

Not only have you missed a fantastic read, you got Bob Heinlein shaking his head up in Science-Fiction Heaven at your tragic mistake.

Starship Troopers is without doubt a core read for any Conservative and if you cannot afford buying a used copy off Amazon, let me know and I'll mail you a paperback copy.

52 posted on 04/11/2018 5:53:30 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Impy
Of course I never read the novel so I have no basis to slam it as a poor adaptation. Wikipedia says they basically took an unrelated script and slapped the “Starship Troopers” brand on it.

They took a very philosophical book that discussed the basis for granting the suffrage on being willing to put yourself between society and the people and the dark unknown, of what any kind, by volunteering for ANY KIND OF GOVERNMENT SERVICE, at the government's need. It was your choice to volunteer.

Once you volunteered, no matter what your abilities or disabilities, they'd find a place for you to serve, whether it would be in the Mobile Infantry, piloting a starship, sweeping streets, working in an office, or being a guinea pig for a drug test, or counting the hairs on the back of that guinea pig. . . ANYTHING, so long as you had volunteered for public service. . .and fulfilled the minimum of two years OR the period of an emergency (In case of war), you'd become a veteran and receive the franchise.

Alternately, you could live in society without ever volunteering or serving and still participate in all the benefits of that society, without being looked down upon, or condemnation, except you could not ever receive the franchise to vote OR be elected to any public office. That PRIVILEGE was reserved only for those who had put their lives at risk by the mere act of volunteering and COMPLETING that term of service, showing they were willing to put society above themselves.

The movie essentially turned that into a FASCISTIC society with completely militaristic volunteering only.

The movie makers also tossed out one of the most intriguing ideas Heinlein ever put forward, the idea of the armored enhanced PERSONAL infantry suit, which the soldiers individuals wore which we are now getting closer and closer to having every day. This suit gave each soldier the ability to jump hundreds of feet, and carry tons of equipment, mirroring every movement his body made. We saw something similar in Avatar. . . but Heinlein described it much better in Starship Troopers.

They kept some of the tropes from the book, like the name of the starship Rodger Young, but dropped the use of the Song "Ballad of Rodger Young" as the means of recalling its troopers. It's a great song. Listen to the Burl Ives' version of the Ballad of Rodger Young. "Shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young. . . " Nope, left out.

62 posted on 04/11/2018 3:31:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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