Posted on 03/29/2018 11:06:58 AM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
The Russian Ministry of Defense is looking to install the 25-ton monument in Elizabeth City, which is the near the headquarters of a secret WWII mission called "Project Zebra," in which hundreds of Soviet aviators were trained at a time when U.S. and Soviet forces were allied in the fight against the Nazis.
But the Elizabeth City council voted 5-3 on March 23 against a previously signed memorandum of understanding.
If the plan had come to fruition, the Russian Defense Ministry would have paid for the monument, with the city then covering some $228,000 for improvements to the park where it would be installed.
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I'm sure the Army Air Corp appreciates your sentiments about the loses they incurred for not "being there"
Obviously I was talking about the Eastern Front and land armies that could kill millions of German soldiers. Then I referred to the date at which we were able to field “many dozens of divisions” on land in Europe. If you want to tear my remarks out of context, I can’t help you.
the last time I looked, Italy is still a part of Europe. We had the Fifth Army fighting there, plus Army logistical units, the USAAF, and the US Navy during 1943-45
I am well aware of the fronts in Italy, North Africa, tremendous air and sea combat, etc. I was talking specifically about “many dozens of divisions” which could engage and kill potentially into the millions. We could hurt Nazi Germany but we could not WIN the war without “many dozens of divisions” in western Europe.
You’re right, I should have been specific about what I meant by “major” or “large” armies, but I thought the context made it clear. I was referring to, at what point could we get 60+ divisions into combat against Germany?
Then how about the Fifth Army, as Enchante reminded me was fighting in Italy during that time span.
Sorry you do not like to be corrected. It may pass on other sites but on Free Republic there are many people know their history, inside and out.
It is not a shame to be corrected. I have been corrected by GreyFriar for forgetting the Fifth Army Group, yet here I am admitting my error.
That’s because Roosevelt had actual communists in his administration.
I would be glad to be corrected if you had corrected anything I said, but you didn’t. Before summer 1944 we could fight many air, land, and sea battles against Hitler’s forces, but it was only once we had 60+ divisions engaged on land that we could win and end the war.
If they had to build the amount of trucks we sent them in the war it would have come close to halving their AFV production.
The average Russian soldier was like all soldiers the world over. They just wanted to survive and go home to their families.
Governor Dinwiddle,
Just as it took the tacit, active, and passive approval of ordinary Germans for the Holocaust to have been accomplished...
So too the Soviet Union and its genocidal terrors and purges. This is the primary conclusion of so many of Russia’s dissident writers! Especially of the Gulag.
One finds that most individuals were betrayed to the authorities and sent to camps, not by government or law officials — but by their own relatives and friends who sought their own survival.
The heroes were the ones who were imprisoned or killed for staying true to God and conscience.
The System required spiritual submission by the millions under it in order to work as long as it did. Beyond Stalin’s reign.
Today the prison archives are locked. Secrets still kept between generations...for fear of unbearable truths coming to light. (Like finding out your own parent was an “informer” who tattled on your aunt, etc...)
I wonder if the monument would look like a huge radio beacon (for spy broadcasting).
“” “” “I realize it’s about honoring fallen heroes from World War II, and we have Americans who fought in World War II who are buried in Russia. But times were different then,” council member Anita Hummer said.”” “”
Yep, times were different then. They were Commies but not anymore so no monument. If only it was a Lenin statue then OK.
During the state dinner as part of a military mission to the USSR during World War 2, Chief of Naval Operations Ernest King offered a toast “To the Heroic Fighting Qualities of the Red Army.”
Stalin dryly replied “It takes a brave man to not be a hero in the Red Army.”
A memorial. For them: http://augustinecollective.org/god-in-the-gulag-christianitys-survival-in-soviet-russia/
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