Mary, Queen of Scots, was 'adulteress, liar and murderer'

InticWeb ^ | February 8, 2018 | unattributed

[SunkenCiv]

Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots, was a lying adulteress who plotted with her lover to murder her husband, an intriguing new study claims.

The analysis by Lesley Smith, a medical historian, claims that Mary lied about being raped to explain her pregnancy and justify her third marriage after her second husband, Lord Darnley, was strangled in Edinburgh...

Her beauty and sexual attractiveness -- at 5ft 11in, Mary was about a foot taller than the average woman -- gave her cousin Elizabeth I all the more reason to eventually execute her for treason in 1587, Ms Smith said.

"All in all, Mary Queen of Scots was a very dangerous creature to the unmarried Protestant Elizabeth, and her physical presence made her positively intoxicating to anyone who met her."

The researcher analysed a report by Claude Nau, Mary's adviser and secretary, that she miscarried twins on July 24, 1567, at Loch Levan Castle, Kinross.

The Scottish queen was held prisoner by her own people at the castle after she married James Hepburn, fourth Earl of Bothwell, just 12 weeks after Darnley's murder.

She justified the marriage to Bothwell, a Protestant, by saying that she had to preserve her honour after he abducted and "ravished" her at Dunbar Castle. Bothwell was the prime suspect in the murder, but was acquitted in what is now widely regarded as a sham trial...

The miscarriage took place seven weeks after the wedding. However, it would have required modern microscopes and knowledge of foetal development to identify the babies as twins such an early stage of pregnancy, said Ms Smith.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Lots of pics of her on this link.” <<

Any video? :o)
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[wardaddy]

Wrong Mary

Bloody Mary is who you’re thinking of

The last catholic monarch essentially with any authority to speak of hence Bloody Mary

This Mary begat the Stuart’s through her gay boy Jimmy First after Lizzie died

Bloody Mary half sister of Prod Lizzie

Scot Mary first cousin once removed of Lizzie

Tudor’to Stuart

Nice and bloody

And toss in Protestant versus Roman for more fun

[SunkenCiv]

Well, I guess this topic was likely to trigger some sectarian turmoil. :^)

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

I thought she looked like this;

https://art-now-and-then.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-rms-queen-mary.html

[SunkenCiv]

He would try, but he'd find two or three dead hands stuck in her *****. /rimshot!.

[SunkenCiv]

The day that MQoS was executed, Elizabeth shut herself up in her bedchamber, but her unstrung weeping could be heard through the doors.

[Ambrosia]

Oh my goodness, those pics are paintings...no real cameras in Mary Queen of Scots time! You are too much!

[oldvirginian]

Yeah, Very possible.
I wouldn’t want to be the person to tell Henry VIII that his daughter died while in my care. The whole family would have been hung, drawn and quartered.

Explains why Liz I never married at a time when royalty was married off young.
She also used some very telling words at different times.
As well the 1580-1590 portrait definitely looks like and old cross dresser.

Those crazy Brits, what are we going to find out next?

[SunkenCiv]

Queen Elizabeth Letters Show Her Distrust of Mary Queen of Scots | Roslyn Sulcas | December 21, 2017:

A Dec. 3, 1584, letter from Queen Elizabeth I to Sir Ralph Sadler, who was keeping Elizabeth’s cousin Mary Queen of Scots under lock and key at Tutbury Castle in Staffordshire. Credit British Library

[SunkenCiv]

How Mary Queen of Scots Could Have Kept Her Throne
http://unamsanctamcatholicam.com/history/147-how-mary-queen-of-scots-could-have-kept-her-throne.html

[Kartographer]

I wonder if Lazamataz would ‘hit it’?

[SunkenCiv]

Lord Darnley was a Stuart, that was her first husband whom she had strangled.

[SunkenCiv]

I first read about it circa 40-45 years ago, in an old National Geographic, possibly in the collection "This England". :^)

[odawg]

Wrong Mary.

[colorado tanker]

The Tudor line and the Protestant Succession were still in a rather precarious position despite Elizabeth's popularity. At the end of the day, whether Mary plotted against Elizabeth was not as important as the fact that as long as she was alive supporters of restoring the Catholic faith as the established religion would always use her as a rallying point.

My understanding of why Elizabeth never married is she finally concluded that whoever she married would ingratiate her with his faction but make enemies of all the others. Similar to the troubles Mary had in Scotland.

[odawg]

They found his grave. He had a severely curved spin.

[oldvirginian]

Just a thought, wondering if their “Virgin Queen” is where Merry Ol England developed It’s penchant for buggery? =-O

Do you have a ping list for these history/anthropology/whatever posts?
If you do please add me.
You drag up some interesting stuff.
Though I have no training in it I love all types of history.

[lizma2]

“1st Brexit.”

Good point!

[wardaddy]

Both he and his wife Mary QOS were grandchildren of Margaret Tudor

Determined mom of Henry VII

And wife of Edmund killed in war of the roses sort as a prisoner

Margaret a child herself at 13 and seven months pregnant ....may have been impregnated just prior to her 13 birthday by Edmund in their arranged marriage

It’s debated her birth year...

What a crew of intrigue that bunch and even though the wives created both lines they carry the dead husbands name as dynasty we recall now

Tudors and Stewart-Stuart

I thought Bothwell Mary’s second tadpole donor was the bomber slash strangler

Darnley.....not a beloved rake....many people wanted him dead.

A murderer himself

Was James I really his ?

Or that Italian guy

All that intrigue cost her the Scots throne but led to her as matriarch of the Stuart’s after the death of her cousin we all venerate ....the virgin..meh....who had her head removed

You can’t make this stuff up can u

[lizma2]

Hard to know whose propaganda prevailed.

William Harrison is thought to be the most accurate historian during Elizabethan times. In his “ The Description of England” (1577) he describes how Henry was very severe in dealing with infractions of the law.

The Tudors seem to have gave out the death penalty for dang near everything including stealing, forgery, and witchcraft!

This was interesting (and gruesome! Hanging, pressing beheading, boiling and burning. Treason got you drawn and quartered.)

Of Sundry Kinds of Punishment Appointed for Offenders

[1577, Book III., Chapter 6; 1587, Book II., Chapter 2.]

http://www.bartleby.com/35/3/17.html

Modern claim

https://www.ranker.com/list/gruesome-executions-time-of-henry-viii/jeffrichard?utm_expid=16418821-388.8yjUEguUSkGHvlaagyulMg.0