Posted on 03/22/2018 6:22:46 PM PDT by ransomnote
This thread is a friendly collaborative place for FReepers to analyze information and share opinons. FReepers have a wide variety of reasons for investigating Q Anon content; this is not the appropriate place to criticize or badger those who choose to use some of their time in this manner.
I plan to post one thread at a time and ping new drops posted to it. When I post each (new) thread, the prior thread is retired and all new posts occur on the newest thread.
If you are new to Q Anon, the three links below provide overviews to help answer the questions, "Who is Q?" and "Why read Q drops?".
Q Anon: A Freeper's post re the "new Parallel Construct that Trump has created"
First post to Q ping list. Please read and let me know if you want off or on it
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President John F. Kennedy's excellent speech regarding secret societies, as well as comments about the press, is located at the following link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs
A helpful FReeper passed along the following link. Its to a group that goes live on Youtube when Q drops are released. Ill put the link to their general Youtube channel here. When new Q drops are released, they start a new live stream video which remains active as long as they have new insights or information or guests to share information. You can look for any live stream videos in progress or recordings of their prior videos at the link.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWW3gYCvKS412p7o6qSK5gg
The following link displays President Trump's tweets and Q Anon drops in one table in chronological order:
https://anonsw.github.io/qtmerge
Q "drops" (i.e., posts) can be read with their original formatting at the following links. The different websites hosting Q drops don't function the same for everyone. I hope you will find a site that works for you:
Q drops (i.e., posts) often use acronyms. A few FReepers have begun to organize acronym into helpful reference materials. Here is Swordmaker's list of acronyms for your reference: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3640719/posts?page=19#19
SkyPilot has been collecting Q Anon information into one interesting, detailed, "story of Q" post which I'll place here:
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3633313/posts?page=163#163
For those who would like to find out what people on Twitter are Tweeting about Q Anon
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I think the following video provides a "big picture" view of why "the storm" is necessary.
This Video Will Get Donald Trump Elected
For those who want a little uplifting video which outlines the big picture that we are now striving for, here's a video from 2016 in which candidate Donald Trump outlines what he wants for Americans and America and his promises if elected.
This Video Will Get Donald Trump Elected
How organic.
NOT!!
Thank goodness we have good folks like Posobeic and O’Keefe doing actual reporting, at this Manufactured Crisis event.
Perhaps then both sides were correct. Those of us who are saying that Trump cannot spend monies on anything he likes, is governed by Appropriations, is governed by the Constitution, and cannot simply have the Army Corps of Engineers construct a wall - were correct.
Those who say that Trump is going to use the DoD to build the wall may be correct, in that, an arcane House rule was passed that bypasses the prohibition in the bill, to wit:
"Section 1039. Rule of construction regarding use of Department of Defense funding of a border wall. None of the funds authorized to be appropriated by this act or otherwise made available for the fiscal year 2018 for the Department of Defense may be used to plan, develop or construct any barriers, including walls or fences, along the international border of the United States."
But then the article says this:
An amendment was offered by Republican Reps. Steven Palazzo and Trent Kelly from Mississippi (which has coastline but no land border) to strike Section 1039. That means Pentagon money could be spent to construct a border wall. In the normal process of things, this amendment would have been accepted by the Rules Committee and then debated and voted on by the full House of Representatives. But nothing about this amendment can be called normal.
I am still not convinced that President Trump has this authority. As I stated yesterday and this morning, it is against the law to spend money on things that were not appropriated for a very specific purpose.
If this arcane House rule does allow him to do so.....well, that is unprecedented as far as I know. I hope it's true, but waiting to see.
Again, I guess we will see. What adds to the confusing mixture is Trump's tweet from this morning:
Because of the $700 & $716 Billion Dollars gotten to rebuild our Military, many jobs are created and our Military is again rich. Building a great Border Wall, with drugs (poison) and enemy combatants pouring into our Country, is all about National Defense. Build WALL through M! The Rules Committee took this one amendment and labeled it, "proposed to be adopted." In the arcana of House rules, this means that voting for the rule governing consideration of the bill was also voting for this amendment. This is known as a "self-executing rule." The ranking Democrat on the committee, Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York, offered an amendment to strike the self-executing portion of the rule and was defeated in committee on a party-line vote of 4-8. On the House floor, the vote on the full rule passed. And at the end of a long and exhausting day (and story), that means Pentagon money can be used to construct a border wall. Talk about governing under the cover of darkness.
heres an article that explains why its legal:
Let’s talk about what the President can and can’t do for this Omnibus Bill. There’s a lot of discussion both ways so let’s examine how money gets allocated & spent in the US Government:
1. Congress allocates money to be spent. The President spends the allocated money.
2. Once Congress allocates money, their job is oversight of the money being spent. They don’t spend the money and have no say HOW it gets spent as long as it’s spent legally. That’s their job to monitor with oversight.
3. Once the President is given the money with the instructions to spend it, he has a number of choices to make in spending it. There are some rules he has to follow & some of the money is fungible and some isn’t.
4. However there are some other factors that are in play here. One of them is that the President has declared a Human Rights Emergency AND has notified Congress that he’s invoking the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985. 5. This opens up new options.
6. By making these two declarations President Trump has just communicated that he has the authority to NOT spend any funds he doesn’t deem necessary and will return them to the US Treasury. So, funds for Planned Parenthood? He can simply not allocate the funds.
7. Also, these declarations make some funds fungible. For instance if he determines that building a Wall on the Southern Border is a defense against Human Trafficking? He can move funds from anywhere else in the Defense Dept Allocation & simply build the Wall.
8. Congress is powerless to stop cash reallocations on an omnibus bill AND cannot stop the DOD from taking measures under a declared Emergency. 9. Despite their language in the Omnibus Bill about the Border Wall, it is trumped by the State of Emergency that Trump declared.
8) So in summary - This will go to the Courts. Congress will sue the President over the Border Wall. But here’s how it will play out - Congress and the President are co-equal branches with different functions. Congress allocates. The President spends.
9) The President has National Security as his Primary Responsibility and it’s his job to use whatever funds and declarations he needs to for that job. No Court in this Nation (except corrupt on the take Judges) would EVER rule against a President for exercising that authority.
10) In the end the Supreme Court (yes, that’s where it will end) will fully VALIDATE the President’s Constitutional Authority & the Wall will be built.
Army Core of Engineers RED_CASTLE?
Comes in colors now. I prefer the black.
At the end of the day, Trump can snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
It's what he has done his whole career.
He makes plans and knows intuitively how to get to his goal, despite obstacles.
And he fights, unlike the usual mediocre politicians.
We were not part of the (certain) conversations he had with Ryan and Mitchell. We know what was public and the opinions of "pundits."
I expect Trump to win in the end, whether this was a lost battle or a strategy.
Thank you for the ping SP. And for the very well written post. I still dont know whats going to happen, but its nice to have all the possibilities laid out in one spot like you did.
Hope all is well with you in sunny California! Springtime is beautiful there.
I have to say I had a giant smirk on my face when you declared we are in uncharted territory regarding some of this. It seems to be EXACTLY where DJT wants to be positioned. He just seemed so eager to sign this heaping pile there just had to be more to this.
Perhaps also it's a lesson being taught to Congress too that had they gone back to the old method of appropriating they wouldn't find themselves in this uncharted situation either, with a big middle finger in their collective faces. Anyhow, it's funny how PDJT keeps finding a way to pull their pants down in public and a lot of heads are probably exploding over this tactic.
Again thanks, and your points 1. And 2. Put a big sh!teating grin on my face I just can't seem to wipe off.
FReregards.
I have to say I had a giant smirk on my face when you declared we are in uncharted territory regarding some of this. It seems to be EXACTLY where DJT wants to be positioned. He just seemed so eager to sign this heaping pile there just had to be more to this.
Perhaps also it's a lesson being taught to Congress too that had they gone back to the old method of appropriating they wouldn't find themselves in this uncharted situation either, with a big middle finger in their collective faces. Anyhow, it's funny how PDJT keeps finding a way to pull their pants down in public and a lot of heads are probably exploding over this tactic.
Again thanks, and your points 1. And 2. Put a big sh!teating grin on my face I just can't seem to wipe off.
FReregards.
And, he pushed the immigration button, too! He told all the DACA recipients that the DEMS threw them under the bus for the wall.
Like setting up a GoFundMe for the Wall.
$20 a ‘brick’.
I’m game!
Bookmarking this one also... (Soooo behind...)
ThankQ for posting this one !
Cboldt, ThankQ !!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3641754/posts?page=1947#1947
Bookmarking...
Melian wrote:
“Keyestone K[eyes]tone”
That’s a good one !
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