Posted on 03/20/2018 9:24:23 AM PDT by llevrok
The Duke of Cambridge bestowed the honour on the Liverpool-born star at a ceremony at Buckingham Palace.
"It means a lot actually," the musician told the BBC. "It means recognition for the things we've done. I was really pleased to accept this."
The honour comes 53 years after the Beatles were all awarded the MBE - and Starr said he had missed his bandmates' companionship this time round.
"I was a bit shaky today on my own," he said.
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Asked whether he wanted to be known as Sir Ringo, the musician, whose real name is Richard Starkey, replied: "I don't know yet. It's new and I don't know how you use it properly."
Turning to BBC reporter Colin Paterson, he added: "But I expect you to use it."
The 77-year-old added he knew exactly what he'd do with his medal.
"I'll be wearing it at breakfast," he joked.
His honour comes 21 years after fellow Beatle Paul McCartney was knighted.
Starr said the pair had met for dinner last week in Los Angeles, and Sir Paul had offered him some advice for the ceremony: "Keep smiling."
Other people receiving honours at Tuesday's ceremony included authors Jilly Cooper and Michael Morpurgo, former Scottish rugby player John "Ian" McLauchlan, Welsh rugby player Sam Warburton and foster carer Anne Shaw.
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Most notable contribution to the music industry: “Octopus’s Garden”..........One of the most inspiring songs in the history of rock and roll.
If you do a quick search on the quote, you'll find that John Lennon, in all likelihood, never said that. Others have suggested that if it was actually stated by Lennon, it was said in jest. That would be consistent with Lennon's snarky sense of humor. If this was stated seriously by Lennon, it was later contradicted by other statements he made and actions he took.
He made her a nice cup of coffee
“Ringo and Paul are both vegans. There must be something to it,when you reach a certain age”
I’d think that having someone to shop and cook for you makes it easier too.
It would be more accurately stated that I believe that John Lennon was generally the primary writer of the most memorable Beatle lyrics. Generally in most of their collaborations, one was the primary writer and the other had a lot of input. One would tell the other that he had a song or an idea and then the collaboration would begin. Occasionally, one would produce a whole song without any collaboration until studio time. The songs I listed in the earlier post have been attributed to John with little or no collaboration from Paul.
I never said that Paul McCartney didn't produce some powerful lyrics. Yesterday and Hey, Jude were his songs with little Lennon contribution. Outstanding lyrics and melodies.
Let me use A Day in the Life as an illustration. I recognize this is a sample of one and it might not be McCartney's best work but the contrast between the Lennon lyrics and the McCartney lyrics is stark. Lennon had produced most of the lyrics for A Day in the Life and feeling that the song could use a bridge, George Martin asked the two if they had anything else that might fit. McCartney said he had a piece that became the fourth verse - "Woke up, fell out of bed...". Sandwiched between the wonderfully intriguing word pictures of Lennon, McCartney's lyrics sound simplistic, almost childish.
then why is it that most of what he wrote, post Beatles, was nowhere near the quality you give him while with the band?
I have always thought that Lennon needed McCartney more than McCartney needed Lennon, so I'm not surprised that Lennon was less prolific in a post-Beatle world. That's not to say that Lennon didn't produce some good stuff. I would refer you to freepertoo's post at #96. After going into a retirement phase and dealing with personal demons, Lennon did re-emerge strongly with Double Fantasy. Prior to that, Lennon had produced a lyrical masterpiece with Imagine. While I hated the messages of the song and the melody became monotonous, there is no denying that the lyrics were powerful.
Back when I had my band one of the guys got a new girlfriend who started influencing him away from practices.
We told him we didn’t like Yoko. She didn’t like us much after she found out her name.
Paul McCartney is an accomplished drummer! Here is a link so you can read about it: http://drummagazine.com/paul-mccartney-the-beatles-other-drummer/
It is certain that John Lennon was being perfectly frank and stating a simple fact which he had seen demonstrated many times. Paul McCartney is indeed the very best of all the drummers who ever played with the Beatles.
Never implied otherwise. The general consensus that I have seen from drummers on McCartney's drumming is that he is decent but not special. I don't recall ever seeing one say that he was better than Ringo.
It is certain that John Lennon was being perfectly frank and stating a simple fact which he had seen demonstrated many times.
Except the evidence suggests that Lennon never said that. Several Beatle historians and experts have tried to track down the quote and they all come to the conclusion that Lennon did not say it. The first time that the statement was clearly made was by British comedian Jasper Carrott in 1983 (and it was part of a joke).
I agree, and IIRC George left the band for a month because of Paul about a year before the official breakup. Have you ever heard one of the Beatles complain about Yoko breaking up the band or causing tension?
I totally agree with your comments. Ono wasn’t the “reason” the Beatles broke up. One of my friends is a hardcore Beatles fan and she had read a great deal of this sort of “analysis” over the years by various Beatles “experts” and she never really bought that storyline either. There were many conflicts within the Beatles and lots of jealousies and personal bitterness that eventually came to a head. Their egos grew too large to sustain it.
I am a Stones fan more but any fair person must recognize the brilliance of the Beatles.
As a Stones fan I must comment on this...haha!
The Stones ARE revered. Many critics and people consider their best music masterpieces as well. Few bands could top the earthshaking genius of Satisfaction, Gimme Shelter, or the entire album of Exile.
Having said that, I don’t agree that they produces mediocre albums after Exile. Many of their albums were really good, like Some Girls, Tattoo You, and Voodoo Lounge. They continued to take chances. I disagree with the idea that after a certain age one should simply retire and fade away. Who wants to do that really? Just sit around and twiddle your thumbs? No, I don’t agree. As long as you feel the fire and want to continue your craft and art you should do it as long as you can. Every time I go out to a mall or in public somewhere I still see at least a couple teenagers wearing Stones shirts (and Beatles and others too). They still hold sway after all these years.
I would definitely put “Some Girls” with their best. But the others to me, were hit and miss.
My 31 year old son is a huge Beatles fan, too. He took me to see Paul McCartney last October.
The way I see it, the two played off the tension that existed between them - it drove both John and Paul to do better as a collaborative team, then they otherwise would have done on their own - at the time.
Paul and John had diametrically opposite personalities, for sure. However, IMO, John was an anti-social revolutionary, with communist atheistic tendencies - even while writing the line (ostensibly) against Mao in the song “Revolution.”
I absolutely despise and utterly condemn “Imagine.” It is a perverse subversive, anti-American, atheistic song, written by a fatalist, whose plunge into the hedonism typical to the drug culture poisoned his soul. In fact, it was this song that became the chief driver of my eventual disdain for John Lennon as a person. I consider him an anti-American subversive, who, while benefiting from the freedoms and fruits of capitalism, yet hypocritically acted to undermine both capitalism and religion.
Totally agree.
However, IMO, John was an anti-social revolutionary, with communist atheistic tendencies - even while writing the line (ostensibly) against Mao in the song “Revolution.”
I would add cynical in the extreme. Lennon might have sung about an ideal utopia but I don't think he believed it. I think he wanted to but his natural cynicism would not allow it. He surrounded himself with true believers in the social causes but I don't think he ever truly bought in himself. I think this is why John Lennon was in a state of internal conflict his whole life and such an unhappy person.
I absolutely despise and utterly condemn “Imagine.”
Don't disagree on that. My only positive statement on that song is an observation, not an approval of its content.
It is a perverse subversive, anti-American, atheistic song, written by a fatalist, whose plunge into the hedonism typical to the drug culture poisoned his soul. In fact, it was this song that became the chief driver of my eventual disdain for John Lennon as a person. I consider him an anti-American subversive, who, while benefiting from the freedoms and fruits of capitalism, yet hypocritically acted to undermine both capitalism and religion.
You know that this actually proves my point about this song having powerful lyrics. Obviously, John Lennon wrote some lyrics that resonated deeply with you. If John Lennon couldn't communicate complex thoughts in simple phrases, he wouldn't have gotten such a strong reaction from you and others. Had the song a set of vapid lyrics, it would have been ignored because there is nothing else about it that is memorable. Being anti-social as you stated above, Lennon wouldn't care whether you agreed or disagreed with him as long as you heard his message. Isn't that exactly what a songwriter wants? Has a McCartney song ever elicited such emotion from you, either positively or negatively? Lennon could elicit emotional responses in a way that McCartney never could which is why I consider Lennon the superior lyricist.
I wonder had John lived, if he’d feel the same about “Imagine” today.
I have a feeling he might say something like, “What the Hell was I thinking, then?”
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