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Five dead after helicopter crash in New York City (East River)
NBC ^ | March 12, 2018

Posted on 03/12/2018 3:58:54 AM PDT by nuconvert

Five people were killed when a private helicopter with six people on board crashed into the East River in New York City on Sunday, authorities said.

Three people transported to area hospitals after the crash later died, New York Fire Department spokesman Jim Long said. Two others were pronounced dead at the scene of the incident.

The pilot freed himself and was taken to a hospital in "OK" condition, New York City Fire Commissioner Daniel Nigron told reporters Sunday night. The pilot was later named 33-year-old Richard Vance

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TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; deathtoll; helicoptercrash; ny; nyc
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To: USNBandit

Don’t trainees actually die in those?

I remember the panic of the guy in that movie. It stayed with me.


21 posted on 03/12/2018 6:55:47 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: nuconvert
Looked likely the engine quit, and he autorotated and flared perfectly, but on water. Must have been low leveling prior, not enough time to pick and choose the spot to land.

Pilot probably had his hands on the release lever of the harness as he hit the water and let go the cyclic.

The passengers, probably not, and the cold water and panic no doubt prevented smooth action in the few seconds they had before rollover and dive.

If not prepared and trained, not much chance to get out in time.

22 posted on 03/12/2018 7:10:23 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: nuconvert

Good Lord. That sounds a lot like a lot though I have no statistics to compare it against.


23 posted on 03/12/2018 7:21:54 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
"Which one had dirt on Hillary?"

:) Yeah... That's the first thing that came to my mind as well... If your a fiend of the Clinton's you better keep feet on the ground and your back to the wall.....

24 posted on 03/12/2018 7:28:09 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: nuconvert

I hope the company has a heavy duty insurance policy.


25 posted on 03/12/2018 7:32:26 AM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: montag813

Cabin doors were open and the camera/video crew were wearing custom harness restraints, which allowed leaning out of the cabin for unobstructed shots.

Reportedly some of the passenger’s equipment got loose in the cabin; and, is implicated in an emergency shutdown of fuel to the engine.


26 posted on 03/12/2018 8:58:05 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: nuconvert
Oil platform workers need special training to get out of a helicopter in a water landing.

They usually flip upside down, fill with water quickly and are very tightly packed.

You have only a few seconds before it starts to sink.

This probably explains why only the pilot survived. And no, he would not have been able to help others before becoming trapped and drowning himself, especially given the water temperature.

27 posted on 03/12/2018 9:10:57 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
Which one had dirt on Hillary?

My first thought, as well.

28 posted on 03/12/2018 9:44:27 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: going hot

They knew they were going down, so the pilot should have announced to the passengers to have their hands on their own release levers so they had a chance to get out. They were all still belted in when the rescue workers arrived.


29 posted on 03/12/2018 10:06:33 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: dp0622

The midair collision with the small plane, I believe, was the plane pilot’s fault.


30 posted on 03/12/2018 10:09:39 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
They knew they were going down, so the pilot should have announced to the passengers to have their hands on their own release levers so they had a chance to get out. They were all still belted in when the rescue workers arrived.

Yes, they needed to prepare to release their belts as the many point harness is different than your typical seat belt.

31 posted on 03/12/2018 10:10:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Jane Long
“These harnesses had to be cut and removed in order to get them off this helicopter, which was upside down at the time and completely submerged.”

Not sure why they had to be cut, they aren't that difficult to uncouple.

32 posted on 03/12/2018 10:12:31 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: phormer phrog phlyer
If it was blocked then exit via a crew exit, this was a larger aircraft.

I heard the doors were all open for the photo shoot.

33 posted on 03/12/2018 10:13:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

If that is true, then it would seem that they should be able to egress, as long as there were no other significant contributing factors.


34 posted on 03/12/2018 12:43:45 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: USNBandit
The normal passenger belts in AS350s are like airliner belts with a single additional shoulder strap. Even if they had been replaced with center buckle four way restraints, those aren’t hard to get out of.

I believe that was how Otis "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay" Redding died. He had apparently survived the plane crash, but drowned when he couldn't get out of his seat belt.

35 posted on 03/12/2018 12:57:37 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nuke deals. See my FR page)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer
they should be able to egress, as long as there were no other significant contributing factors.

Panic is my guess, I'm sure it was quite scary.

36 posted on 03/12/2018 1:38:57 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ETL

I am reading now that this was some kind of doors open photo trip where the passengers were all wearing some kind of weird harness. All connections in the back. Not sure how you would do that with 5 pax.


37 posted on 03/16/2018 12:45:01 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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