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To: Cboldt
The big question, to me, is where is that tainted steel supposed to be used?
Pipelines, ships, planes, trains, automobiles, roads/bridges, military applications.
Every project that is slated to use that sh|t steel is now suspect.
And what about the degradation rate for what has already been used? Will that all need to be rebuilt if it's critical?
791 posted on 03/06/2018 12:00:00 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

We may be losing track here...

As someone stated earlier here, Levin was again foaming at the mouth regarding the (possible) steel tariffs. I also heard him last night, and in his rant he was stating that the majority of domestically used steel is produced in the USA. Could be...don’t know...didn’t check up on it. So IMO we can relax a little bit about existing systems and structures not meeting specs and will have to be changed out. Most common piping systems are really over-spec’d. They tend to have a lot of safety factor built-in.

However, the Q drops alluded to steel in military usage. What if Kobe had a proprietary alloy that we relied on, say for some super critical areas in tanks and APCs that perhaps did not meet the required ballistic spec’s? Those types of vehicles need to watch their weight, so it’s quite important that personnel protection be achieved by tough materials where simply adding another 1” of armor won’t fly.

What if the steel was purposely made crappy through some nefarious CF deal? I think that’s where we need to focus.


803 posted on 03/06/2018 12:17:02 PM PST by EMI_Guy ("You have to slow down to go fast." - Kenny Roberts)
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To: philman_36
-- The big question, to me, is where is that tainted steel supposed to be used? --

Indeed. Most applications have no safety ramification whatsoever. Those that do have a safety ramification generally have substantial "safety factor" and often independent means of providing the safety function.

-- Every project that is slated to use that sh|t steel is now suspect. --

... the data falsification scandal, which primarily involved employees saying incorrectly that products met the company's own lofty safety claims. Customers like Toyota and Honda have said they have not found any safety issues related to the company's products.

As I said at the outset, the devil is in the details. What exactly is amiss? The beverage can makers reported no issues.

861 posted on 03/06/2018 1:46:34 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: philman_36
Pipelines, ships, planes, trains, automobiles, roads/bridges, military applications.

Containment vessels for nuclear reactors, anyone? Those are among the ones that the particular steel allow is REALLY important. . . especially for tensile strength over time and radiation exposure.

Wonder what was in the Japanese nuke that failed?

1,169 posted on 03/06/2018 8:38:26 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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