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Memo to The Kiddie Crusaders: Do You Actually Know Anything About Guns?
grasstopsusa.com ^ | 02/23/2018 | Don Feder

Posted on 02/23/2018 8:58:43 PM PST by massmike

We get it: You're mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore. Something must be done at once to keep you safe at school. It's all Donald Trump's fault. Led by the Pied Pipers of Soros (Oprah and Clooney) you're going to march on Washington and demand... what? A ban on AR-15s? To A ban on the NRA?

Before you go off half-cocked, do you actually know anything about guns? Of course, yours is a generation that believes in feelings instead of knowledge, slogans in place of logic.

But, just out of curiosity, see if you can answer the following basic questions (no cheating with Google):

1. What does the Second Amendment say? (Anyone? Anyone?) The 2nd. Amendment to the Constitution guarantees freedom of gun ownership. It's part of the Bill of Rights, one of the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution. James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, considered it so important that he put it right after The First Amendment's freedoms of speech and religion. Point of information for those ignorant of history: The American revolution was sparked by gun control – an attempt by the British to control the guns of New England farmers.

2. Does it refer to an individual or a collective right? The Amendment reads "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Supreme Court ruled that the amendment refers to an individual right.

3. How many guns are in circulation in the United States? Just rough a number, please. More than 50 million? More than 100 million? Estimates vary, but it's generally believed that there are over 300 million guns of all kinds in private hands in this country. In a 2017 Pew Research Survey, 42% of Americans said they lived in a household with guns.

4. What percentage are used in crimes each year? Less than .004% (or less than four homicides per 100,000 guns). At the same time, according to data compiled by the FBI in 2013, guns were used to defend life or thwart crime 67,740 times that year, roughly 6 times the number of gun homicides. In 2017, an armed civilian and former NRA instructor stopped the massacre at the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Spring, Texas, with an AR-15-style rifle (the type of gun the kids have targeted).

5. What's the difference between an automatic and a semi-automatic rifle? An automatic – like a machinegun or M-16 – as the name implies, fires automatically while the trigger is depressed. (For all practical purposes, you can't own one legally.) With a semi-automatic, like the AR-15 which was used in Parkland, the shooter has to keep pulling the trigger to fire off another round. To further muddy the waters, semi-automatics are often referred to as "military-style" or "assault weapons." Both are terms coined by the media to make the weapon sound scary. Military-style? The US military hasn't gone to war with a semi-automatic since 1917.

6. Which cities have the highest homicide rates? The four cities with the highest homicide rates per 100,000 residents are New Orleans (41.68 per 100,000), Detroit (43.82), Baltimore (55.37) and St. Louis (59.29) – all controlled by Democratic machines, all with restrictive gun laws. Compare the foregoing to Waco, Texas (16.74 homicides per 100,000), South Bend, Indiana (16.79), Indianapolis (17.12), and Miami (17.14), all with relatively easy access to firearms.

7. Who funds the NRA? Bete noire of the knee-jerks, the NRA is a membership-based organization, probably the largest in the country, with more than 9 million members. It does receive money from gun manufacturers for its other activities, but under federal law that can't be used for campaign purposes. Politicians listen to the NRA not because of donations, but because the group represents millions of potential votes for or against a candidate.

8. When was it established – to the nearest century? The NRA was founded in 1871 (in New York City, of all places), almost 100 years before the gun control debate began in earnest, at a time when gun control meant a steady aim. Even today, fighting restrictive gun laws is a small part of the NRA's operations. Nine presidents were NRA members, from Ulysses S. Grant to Donald Trump, and including JFK.

9. As gun ownership increased since 1970, did the homicide rate go up or down? Down – way down. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (part of the DOJ), between 1993 and 2006, the rate of violent crime committed in this country (which includes robberies and assaults as well as homicides), fell 74%. But between 1993 and 2013, the number of privately owned guns soared from 185 million to 300 million. If guns cause crime, as Democrats contend, America should be awash in blood.

10. What role did the FBI play in the Marjorie Stone Douglas High School shootings? None – other than screwing up big time. The Bureau could have prevented the murders from happening, but did nothing. On January 5, almost 6 weeks before the attack, it was contacted by someone described as close to the shooter. The Bureau admits it received information about "Cruz's gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of Cruz committing a school shooting." The warning was described as "specific and credible." All of the red flags were there. Protocol required that the tip be forwarded to its Miami field office for investigation. If that had happened, Cruz would have gotten a long-term lease on a padded cell and his 17 victims would be alive. Instead of following its own protocols, the FBI did nothing. In fairness to the Keystone Kops and Inspector Clouseaus, they were probably too busy bad-mouthing their president, chasing Russians and fornicating with each other to handle such a trivial matter.

11. Would any type of gun control have stopped the Parkland High School shooter? Short answer no. Long answer, again no. Nikolas Cruz was mentally ill (okay, he's a sicko), who should have been committed. That he wasn't is due to a failure of both law enforcement and the mental health profession. Still, he was never convicted of a crime (felony or misdemeanor) or committed to a mental institution prior to the shootings – which would have disqualified him from buying a gun legally. Several of his guns were illegal, which means if he couldn't have obtained the AR-15 from a licensed dealer, he could have secured it in other ways

12. What is the real goal of gun control? Liberals love to carry on about America's "gun culture." Americans are assertive; Europeans are generally docile. If Europeans had a "gun culture," perhaps they wouldn't have had communism and fascism. Footnote: Monsters like Hitler and Stalin love a disarmed populace.

I wish the kid crusaders would acquaint themselves with a least a few of these facts. But they prefer screaming their outrage at anti-gun rallies, and mouthing the most inane slogans, to a discussion grounded in reality.

The children who are preparing to march on Washington were indoctrinated by their NEA-member teachers (products of schools of education) to believe that all social ills are the fault of Republicans, and gun crimes are due to lax laws encouraged by the NRA.

Garbage in, garbage out.


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To: massmike

I just got through watching LORD OF THE FLIES. I see the same thing in our youth today.


21 posted on 02/23/2018 10:13:24 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Re-open the insane asylums, stop drugging the kids.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They didn’t survive anything...
It’s like saying I survived driving
on the 105 in Los Angeles, or I
survived 3 hurricanes on the Tex
coast, or two earthquakes in northern
California.
548 people who died from drug
overdose in Broward county
in 2016.

Ban driving in LA
Ban Hurricanes
Ban Earthquakes
Ban illegal drugs


22 posted on 02/23/2018 10:13:36 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: windsorknot

The original CHILDREN’S CRUSADE ended in disaster, for the children.


23 posted on 02/23/2018 10:14:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Re-open the insane asylums, stop drugging the kids.)
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To: Chode

24 posted on 02/23/2018 10:15:38 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: Freedom56v2

hat tip: bravo whiskey


25 posted on 02/23/2018 11:07:42 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: Freedom56v2

Yup.

The only exception for teens bearing guns should be those who join the military and police.

Off-limits to the rest until they’re 21. Seems reasonable to me.


26 posted on 02/23/2018 11:11:46 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: Dr. Pritchett
I thought they allowed corporations to donate as a matter of free speech. Help me please!

I am not sure the exact year or ruling and it is too late at night/early in the morning for me to spend an hour searching but there was some ruling disallowing the NRA from using member dues to lobby so they had to create the NRA-ILA (Institute for Legislative Action (I think)) and take separate donations specifically for political use.

I know the Virginia Citizens Defense League has the same setup and I think most of the same type of organizations do so to follow the law.

27 posted on 02/23/2018 11:26:42 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: goldstategop

Clarification:

The teen experts in the picture I posted are not wanting guns they want to ban them...and they have no business telling responsible firearm owners what to do.

Regarding your comment...I think there need to be a lot more exceptions...I can think of 3 off the bat...

1. Hunters - kids as young as 8 or even younger shoot with parents.

Self defense...

In some rural areas, carrying a firearm is a matter of selfdefense against animals; in Chicago, it is self defense against a different type of animal

2. More self defense...Women needing CC for self defense - I have heard a number of women commenting on the need to be able to defend themselves before the age of 21.

In IL, minors can obtain a FOID card under 21 if they are sponsored by someone who is eligible—i.e. over 21, no felonies, etc.

3. Competitive shooters - It is an Olympic sport

I just don’t think the thugs are going to obey the laws—they sure don’t in Chicago, so we are going to have sad days like we did last week with illegal firearms or other methods of harm unless we can ensure that schools are protected and NOT gun-free zones. Those “Gun free Zone” signs are welcome mats for people wanting to commit terror IMHO

Just my 50 cents ;)


28 posted on 02/23/2018 11:32:53 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: massmike

These well-intentioned fools know only the Liberal propaganda drilled into their heads-full-of-mush by their indoctrinators (a.k.a., teachers).


29 posted on 02/24/2018 12:01:27 AM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: goldstategop

“We don’t allow young people to drink. We shouldn’t trust them with firearms. I’m not saying they can’t do those things - just wait til they’re older and mature and understand the consequences.”


Age 13 = One year old TEEN AGER

Age 21 = One year old ADULT.

Neither one knows CRAP

Takes time to acquire KNOWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE


30 posted on 02/24/2018 12:19:16 AM PST by LaMudBug
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To: massmike

Good article.

Unfortunately, Disney and Comcast will make sure such facts are not presented.


31 posted on 02/24/2018 12:37:47 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: massmike

“Estimates vary, but it’s generally believed that there are over 300 million guns of all kinds in private hands in this country.”


It is a lot higher than that:

http://weaponsman.com/?p=33875

Here’s how everyone who is pro-gun should respond when some idiot proposes to ban guns (or ARs):

“No. Your turn.”


32 posted on 02/24/2018 12:56:42 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: massmike

Fact number 5 is not entirely true. The US military used the M 1 Garand rifle and the M 1 Carbine. Both were semi-automatic .30 caliber rifles.


33 posted on 02/24/2018 1:44:08 AM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Freedom56v2
And the same stupid politicians and Pod eating kids were telling us that police shoot people for no reason. Now they're all in favor of letting only the police have firearms.
34 posted on 02/24/2018 1:48:06 AM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Chode

...but eating Tide-Pods make the bathroom smell better.


35 posted on 02/24/2018 2:11:15 AM PST by Does so (Text a message mentioning the Florida town of Islamorada--funny notification by ear...)
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To: jmacusa

Which is ironic since the police couldn’t rescue the kids in danger.

Just don’t accuse liberals of having critical reasoning skills.

The government is derelict in its most basic responsibilities. Yet liberals insist it should do more.

Go figure.


36 posted on 02/24/2018 2:15:03 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: goldstategop

Nor should we let them vote. We could save so many lives if we quit letting them drive.


37 posted on 02/24/2018 2:37:47 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: goldstategop

Considering the number of teens killed in auto accidents while texting, I recommend a bad on the ownership, possession or use of any smart phone until age 21.

The only cell phones shall be simple flip phones with no internet or texting capabilities.

Violation of this law would result in the loss of all driving privileges until age 25, fine and imprisonment of both parents.


38 posted on 02/24/2018 3:40:38 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Build Kates Wall! Never Forget!)
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To: jmacusa; massmike
I believe the correct date should be 1950, not 1917. Wasn't the M1 Garand the usual issue infantry rifle at the beginning of the Korean War?

Most U.S. soldiers in World War I were armed with bolt-action Springfields or Enfields. The other side used the bolt-action M98 Mauser.

39 posted on 02/24/2018 5:46:55 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: massmike
The US military hasn't gone to war with a semi-automatic since 1917.

Um - M1 Garand - Korea, 1950? Hello? This is an obvious, basic fact. Statements like this make me question the overall article.

40 posted on 02/24/2018 5:48:57 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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