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Condi Rice: it’s time to discuss what 2nd Amendment ‘means in the modern world’
The Washington Times ^ | 2-23-2018 | Jessica Chasmar

Posted on 02/23/2018 6:54:51 PM PST by Pelham

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that it’s time to discuss what the Second Amendment “means in the modern world” in light of last week’s mass school shooting in Parkland, Florida.

Ms. Rice, who served under President George W. Bush, said that while the Second Amendment remains “indivisible,” she doesn’t think civilians should have access to guns like the AR-15, which was used by 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz to fatally shoot 17 students and teachers on Valentine’s Day.

“I think it is time to have a conversation about what the right to bear arms means in the modern world,” she told radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt. “I don’t understand why civilians need to have access to military weapons. We wouldn’t say you can go out and buy a tank.”

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To: Electric Graffiti

Wow. I did not know that. Sounds like her vaunted intelligence wasn’t.


141 posted on 02/24/2018 8:50:42 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace

Taking Condi Rice with a grain of salt! She actually dropped ball in intelligence info prior to 911. I read article about 2002 on that.... Also Clinton had chance to kill Osama bin laden during his Presidency and didn’t! ...more people who made important mistakes!


142 posted on 02/24/2018 8:52:57 AM PST by Ambrosia
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To: Pelham

Think about the term “gun violence”. I’ve never met a VIOLENT gun. I’ve met some violent people. And THEY will, if disposed to become killers, find ways to kill! Would you also prohibit sale of materials like diesel fuel, ammonium nitrate and steel pipe and fittings - ALL necessary to the functioning of a modern society and innocent enough alone but - as demonstrated by muslim morons - capable of killing hundreds at a time in an instant?
The FBI COULD have kept this idiot in Florida away from his guns BUT THEY WERE TOO BUSY to even INTERVIEW HIM???
Ask yourself WHY - in this highly computerized culture - our various law enforcement agencies DO NOT share ALL background information on CLEAR potential threats with one another? Am I paranoid to think that perhaps these sad murders of innocents aid in advancing some globalist totalitarian One World agenda as they attempt to whip otherwise intelligent people into a frenzy to herd them in a direction they wish them to go?
They are frustrated that we “proles” have over 350 million firearms with which to resist them. We must first be DISARMED if they are to SAFELY have their pseudo Utopian way with us!
Look up Hegelian Dialectic for starters. There are – and have been for dozens of decades - forces at work in the world that pay no heed to what most of us consider rules of civilized behavior. They are only guided by what advances their agenda. Does the old phrase “You can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs” come to mind.
In their warped minds, do innocent kids = eggs?

Some quotes to ponder:
“A free people should not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might abuse them, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT.” That from George Washington!

And the late DEMOCRAT Senator and presidential candidate Hubert Humphery offered this on the topic:
“The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against
arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny
which now appears remote in America, but which historically
has proved to be always possible.” 
(Ed. Comment: Heavens, how the Democrats have changed!)

And consider the IRONY that the 4th Estate (which has largely morphed into a 5TH COLUMN) always raises the false argument that the Founders never envisioned the advent of weapons like the AR15 and other modern arms. Those 56 men were students of history and the knew well the failings of human nature. They understood that the Constitutional economic and political system they sought to leave as their legacy would produce abundance and liberty for more people than any in history. They ALSO knew that it would spawn advances in technology that would some day make the physical artifacts common in THEIR day the relics they have become in ours. THAT INCLUDED WEAPONS of all sorts!
Now here’s the irony: If one applies to the Second Amendment the media’s claim that ordinary citizens “...the people..” today should ONLY be allowed to possess unrifiled, muzzle loaded flintlock muskets, that “logic” would limit THEM to writing today’s latest “fake news” by dipping quill pens into ink wells and scribbling on parchment!
And for those who still believe that the media are benign innocents simply “journalizing” events here, I’m compelled to add this from Mark Twain:
“Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your HONOR.  That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse.” Mark Twain

Let me wrap this with a fact MOST humans find so disturbing that they refuse to confront it: MOST OF THE HUMANS KILLED OVER HISTORY WERE MURDERED BY GOVERNMENTS.
It’s called DEMOCIDE and 260 MILLION people died at the hands of a government in just the 20th century.
And THAT is why those of us who still possess critical thinking skills and have families STILL outnumber those who repeatedly call for steps toward the ultimate goal of the left: Total disarmament of this population.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqw7kXG0kxU


143 posted on 02/24/2018 10:36:02 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Why are damn near ALL the SEX FIENDS Democrats?)
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To: Pelham

The only discussion I will have regarding the Second amendment is shortening it to: The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Because obviously the left doesn’t understand the first clause of the amendment even though it’s in English.

5.56mm


144 posted on 02/24/2018 10:38:08 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Electric Graffiti

“That Bush admin was something else.../spit”

Michael Gerson
David Frum
Karl Rove
Condi Rice

and others of that ilk who I don’t recall offhand.

Californians who worked on Prop 187 and wanted immigration law enforced knew that Dubya was bad news before he was elected. He turned out to be even worse than expected. But he sure had a lot of freepers fooled.


145 posted on 02/24/2018 10:46:25 AM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Pelham

Don’t forget GW Bush fave Rod Rosenstein. Bush wanted RR on the Fourth Circuit Court.


146 posted on 02/24/2018 10:51:10 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Pelham


147 posted on 02/24/2018 11:26:11 AM PST by Joe Brower (Nothing is more terrifying than ignorance in action. Particulary when that ignorance is cultivated.)
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To: jjotto

Colin Powell was another Dubya gem


148 posted on 02/24/2018 11:28:17 AM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Pelham

Hell, let’s talk about doing away with the 13th Amendment, Condi.

Yeah, thought so...STFU.


149 posted on 02/24/2018 1:47:52 PM PST by hattend
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To: Pelham
“I don’t understand why civilians need to have access to military weapons. We wouldn’t say you can go out and buy a tank.”

You understand perfectly well ... and it scares you.

We the People have the right to own military weapons in order to kill tyrants.

150 posted on 02/24/2018 1:49:56 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Candor7
Civilians do not have access to military weapons.

The National Firearms Act and the Hughes Amendment are gross violations of the Constitution.

151 posted on 02/24/2018 1:51:17 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Agreed. I have been craving an MA-deuce for years as well as a 5 inch howitzer.


152 posted on 02/24/2018 4:24:27 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

You’re rather more ambitious than I ... I’d like to have a real Tommy Gun.


153 posted on 02/24/2018 5:13:16 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: chris37

Ditto. A Bush bot globalist NWO type.


154 posted on 02/24/2018 8:15:17 PM PST by ZULU (Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. - WC)
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To: PROCON

2,000 ILLEGAL GUNS PER DAY FLOW ACROSS US MEXICO BORDER
https://www.insightcrime.org/news/analysis/2000-illegal-weapons-cross-us-mexico-border-every-day/


155 posted on 02/25/2018 6:04:37 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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