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China will soon have air power rivalling the West's (yet we continue to buy everything from there)
The Economist ^ | Thu, Feb 15 12:00 PM GMT+7

Posted on 02/16/2018 5:41:08 PM PST by cba123

THERE is no question which country gets the starring role in “The Military Balance”, the latest annual review of the world’s armed forces by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), a London-based think-tank. Amid renewed jostling between the world’s great powers, it is the pace of military modernisation in China that stands out. China’s president, Xi Jinping, wants to be able to challenge America’s military might in the western Pacific. He is making big progress. China’s once bloated armed forces are becoming leaner and a lot more capable. They are also benefiting from a defence budget that is growing at a steady 6-7% a year, in line with GDP. The IISS declares that China has ...

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KEYWORDS: america; china; trade
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To: cba123

The reduction of US business taxes is a HUGE blow to the Chinese.
A large step in the direction you advocate.


21 posted on 02/16/2018 6:23:42 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: libertylover
I never thought it was a good idea to go to China and teach them how to make things using modern manufacturing techniques.


I never thought it was good for Nixon to go to China to open up trade with a totalitarian communist government.

Nixon went to China as a symptom of weakness, not of a manifestation of strength. He was hoping to use his Chinese diplomatic success to bolster his administration, which was under attack from leftists. It cost us industry, after industry as greedy globalists sought the low cost providers.

22 posted on 02/16/2018 6:24:33 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Artemis Webb

The Founding Fathers didn’t think you should be allowed that choice. That’s why they slapped a huge tariff on manufactured goods as one of America’s very first laws.


23 posted on 02/16/2018 6:27:31 PM PST by WatchungEagle
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To: cba123

Their hardware is better than ours, they don’t have kill switches in every chip.


24 posted on 02/16/2018 6:31:00 PM PST by wxgesr (I wanna be the first person to surf on another planet....)
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To: gaijin
GM sold Hummer to China in 2009 so you can't really say they're stealing US goodies when we sell them to them outright.

"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

25 posted on 02/16/2018 6:38:47 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: cba123

There are 4 countries that have historical rivalries with China in Asia. Forget Russia. The remaining 3 are India, Japan and Vietnam. These countries are key to containing China. China will skirmish with India but won’t risk nuclear war with India by escalation. The other 2 must 1. develop their own sophisticated nuclear arsenal. And 2, have solid plans to deny China air superiority over any potential warzone. If neither Japan or Vietnam do this, they will be toast.


26 posted on 02/16/2018 6:51:53 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: cba123
Why China's J-20 Is No Match for the F-22 or F-35
27 posted on 02/16/2018 6:52:06 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Rashputin

There is no way we win a conventional war with CHINA...

We can not make it here without imports from China..

We won WWII because we could build more than they could..

We did not get bombed


28 posted on 02/16/2018 6:54:16 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Rebel2016

Actually starting with Nixon, who opened US relations with China.


29 posted on 02/16/2018 7:05:01 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: libertylover

If anyone thinks the Chicoms will ever allow modern assembly machinery that was installed in factories over there be disassembled and shipped to the US, they had better think again.


30 posted on 02/16/2018 7:07:02 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

I was in Thailand for a week, and we stopped at a place which had a play. It was very interesting in that is focused on each country one at a time, I thought the depictions were very realistic.

I am American and completely bought the portrayal of America. I also thought the depiction of Vietnam was very good. I saw depictions which were very good, about several countries.

Then they did a focus on China.

It was quite martial. And the Chinese cheered very much.

We have an issue, coming up.

Wake up people.


31 posted on 02/16/2018 7:09:15 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Shenzhen, China. Where America gets most of it's electronics...

Hong Kong which is the portal where America get's most of it's clothing.
Guangzhou, where America gets most of it's shoes, and outerwear.

Hre is Xiamen where GM and Ford get most of the components made for American cars.
...
Just saying...


32 posted on 02/16/2018 7:14:24 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: vannrox

We built all that.

By giving our country away


33 posted on 02/16/2018 7:16:31 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: combat_boots

Article is utter nonsense. Building something that looks like a stealth fighter, does not equal a lethal kill chain.

-is it really stealthy
-do its systems really work
-can it be deployed effectively
-can it be maintained effectively
-what kind of training will the operators have
-what kind of combat exp. will the operators have
-what kind of tactics will its commanders have developed
-etc.

In other words, they can park some J-20’s on a reef in the South China sea, but will they really be able to engage them effectively? Spend some time in China, and you will realize the only way something ever works is by repeated failures, using inferior materials and people, until they eventually get it right. I would be my money on the country that has been successfully using, proving, and developing the technologies for the last 30 years, with an operational training regime that dates back to VietNam.


34 posted on 02/16/2018 7:49:50 PM PST by Ragnar Danneskjöld
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To: Ragnar Danneskjöld

I lived in China in the 1980’s.

Even then, they were entirely focused on learning things, and developing things.

The country is VERY capable of producing anything we are capable of producing. And they steal a great deal of intellectual property.

We need to gear up to defend ourselves once again.

Far too many, just climbed onto the China bandwagon during the last 30 years.

China has lots, and lots, and lots of experience producing everything sold in every store in America.

What you are talking about, are just training issues.

Temporary.


35 posted on 02/16/2018 8:01:25 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Hojczyk
So other than you obviously thinking I'm too stupid to have read any history and somehow even vaguely suggested we have a war with China, what's your point?

That wasting money on weapons instead of making rational military acquisition decisions is a good thing?

And by the by, we can get along without China a lot more easily than they can get along without us.

36 posted on 02/16/2018 8:22:30 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: cba123

37 posted on 02/16/2018 11:37:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: cba123

Too many people, from all political backgrounds, have made a fortune from selling out communist china. This has gone on since before the 1990’s, and possibly further back. That is all this is about: making a shitload of cash, consequences be damned.

I see that mentality a lot here on FR, along with all of the flimsy excuses tossed out their to justify their actions. The chinese don’t make just cheap crap anymore, they make just about ALL of our comsumer and industrial products now, either in whole, or partial content.

And this isn’t just an American problem. China has worked its way into being a sole source producer through acquisition of industries and IP.

Like you said, we were sold out. And now, the chinese own us.


38 posted on 02/17/2018 10:06:26 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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