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Leopard 2 bought by Turkey to fight British-backed Kurds has numerous faults exposed in battle [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 31, 2018 | Gareth Davies

Posted on 01/31/2018 5:11:53 AM PST by C19fan

A German-made tank, which Berlin once dubbed one of the best in the world, has had its shortcomings embarrassingly exposed on the battlefield in Syria. Photos from the Turkish military operation dubbed 'Euphrates Shield', which began in August 2016, show the charred remains of one of the Leopard 2 tanks which was reportedly blown up with mines.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: leopard2; tanks; treadhead; turkey
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To: bravo whiskey

That is kind of the way I see it, but...I would guess (as you say) if you don’t have good tactics and support, someone is going to put a munition up your rear end...


21 posted on 01/31/2018 7:31:13 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel

Tanks are really obsolete, in their current configuration.

There are anti-tank missiles on both sides of the battle lines that can disable any tank very quickly.

Robot tanks would save lives and could be made more impervious to antitank weapons if there were no human on board to protect.

The bottom of the tank and the treads are the most vulnerable spots and always have been..................


22 posted on 01/31/2018 7:33:51 AM PST by Red Badger (Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping.


23 posted on 01/31/2018 8:15:03 AM PST by zot
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To: Red Badger

You may be right on that.


24 posted on 01/31/2018 8:26:02 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: zot; C19fan

You’re welcome. In a partial defense of Leopard IIs being destroyed by landmines, a big enough land mine will destroy any tank. My cousin’s husband was fortunate enough to survive when his Sheridan light tank detonated a NVA landmine that was made from a previously dud U.S. 500 pound bomb in 1970 during the Cambodian incursion.

And to my fellow tankers, yes I know that the M-551 Sheridan was officially an “Armored Reconnaissance/Airborne Assault Vehicle.”


25 posted on 01/31/2018 8:54:42 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: C19fan

I heard a rumor about two years ago that Erdogan approached Netanyahu for the Merkava.

Fwiw.

5.56mm


26 posted on 01/31/2018 8:59:30 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: C19fan

The way I see the photos and as others have pointed out I would go with the not properly supported/tactics belief.

None of these pictures show armor penetration from a missile/RPG but rather bottom up mine damage. You’ll also notice the top panels on the turret are blown upwards as designed in case of an ammo bake off.

The Turks probably believe they can send in a platoon of armor and pick stuff off at will with no support.


27 posted on 01/31/2018 9:02:00 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark (The American media: We do what the Soviet media did without the guns to our head.)
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