Posted on 01/23/2018 7:37:02 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
A wild mustang charging across an open plain is a symbol of the untamed majesty of nature. But the predators chasing these horses are anything but natural.
Controversy has broken out over the U.S. Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) practice of using helicopters to herd horses off public lands and sometimes permanently put them into holding facilities in an effort to control their population.
"Sometimes these horses get stampeded for miles and miles," said Simone Netherlands, an animal rights activist and a spokesperson for the American Wild Horse Campaign.
Now the government is considering culling these animals for the first time in nearly 50 years, putting the lives of thousands of wild horses at stake.
Most of the U.S.'s estimated 75,000 wild horses live on public lands, usually vast expanses that the government controls in the American West.
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Why? Horse is delicious, as long as it hasnt been contaminated by things like veterinary antibiotics then theres no reason not to eat them. I would gladly purchase some.
Have you eve tried loading a wild mustang in a trailer””
LOL. I almost choked on my coffee. Hell, I’ve had trouble with well broke horses. Most people have no idea. I once had 2 mares and a gelding that I could jump in the back of a pickup truck, no more than 2 at a time. I also had a friend with a goofy mare, that hauled his in his truck until she jumped up on the cab, down on the hood and into the street. LOL. You should have seen his truck.
Humans are natural predators of both deer and horse. Gross negligence by managing departments is the problem.
Then come fil your semi.
Too true. Horses are a high maintenance animal. Theres a reason raising them is a rich mans folly. This entire crisis was manufactured by dogooders trying to save the horses. Typically, they know nothing about animals and cause only harm. In effect, these bastards instituted neglect as the only legal option. Its sick, but what do you expect when you have urban dwellers making policy for ranges.
Actually, my wife has had horsemeat and it tasted very good to her.
Europeans love horse meat.
The 2008 economic crash was very bad for “wild” horses. Adoptions dropped and thousands of horses that the owners couldn’t afford anymore were turned loose on the open range. I often see horses loose that still have halters on. One area I go there is a stallion that is clearly a well bred thorough bred.
Come to Missouri. I’ll show you some deer hunting. Ask my in law from Austin where he got the one mounted on the wall?
Horses are not native.
omes into play where the horsemeat industry is concerned. Horses had an intrinsic worth which was their weight related to the slaughter horse. Since the elimination of the slaughter market in the US, horses that no longer are desired or cannot perform have no worth and owners are neglecting them to die horrible deaths. They don’t get care if necessary and are mistreated. Horse meat used to be dispensed by the US Government as commodity meat to the poor. As dog food it was a good source of protein. Since the law preventing the slaughter of US horses I’ve seen exponential increases in equine mistreatment and neglect.””
Good assessment.
The ones on the barrier islands here in the southeast have been here a good five centuries. I’d say they’re native enough by now.
How do you get your deer to recognize that they are supposed to move to town?
The nearest city of any significance is just under 40 miles from here. I dodge deer on a daily basis. I usually hit at least 1 deer a year despite efforts to avoid them. One year during a blizzard I hit...4? 6?...at the same time as a herd of 20 something were standing in the road on a curve.
Last night on my way home I barely missed a herd of 6, this morning I successfully completed two separate emergency braking maneuvers to avoid deer collisions.
I agree. Ok. My ancestors came here in the 1600s, so I’m native American.
What else would you be? You’re not native anything else.
They have damn little value except at slaughter and have totally ruined the graze on hundreds of thousands of acres of BLM land.
The horse worshipers are irrational and passion driven. They want the horses there because they want the horses there. There is no science behind their position and there is no debating them on the subject. They are ruled by their passion and will listen to nothing else.
I was ranch raised west of Susanville. We did not have any government leases where the horses are but I have hunted all over that country and Logged, Chipped the Junipers for bio fuel power on hundreds of thousands of acres up there. The junipers are also an invasive species in that area.
There is damn little range up there that is now open to grazing cattle because the horses have ruined it and it will take decades to recover.
I would support getting rid of all of the cattle on that ground and getting rid of every last horse out there too.
Now how can Science argue with removing an invasive species.
Science can't argue with that but the horse worshipers will go ballistic.
The real problem is that the animals are so destructive to the land they live on. Hard hooves trample the very delicate desert ground. They aren’t native. They are invasive, like the wild pigs in Texas or the guagga mussels in the lakes. They are destructive beyond belief.
The land they are occupying doesn’t recover from the damage, we don’t get much rain here. A four wheeler leaves marks that last for years, those hard hooves slamming down on the delicate residue that holds the soil down is as bad a running a harrow over it.
Folks have romanticized horses.
A horse on the range is worse than a cat in the house. They can’t give these things away, they can’t sell them, they spend millions every year holding them in “Wild Horse facilities” like this one: https://www.blm.gov/adoptahorse/
They hold them for years until they die, penned up. Meanwhile, the rangelands get torn to pieces by the multitude of the ones left to run amuck on the desert.
Anybody wants to argue the facts, come on out to Sevier, Iron, Tooele, or Millard County Utah and look for yourself. Flaming me without looking just proves you don’t give a damn about facts....
If you folks love these things so much, let’s turn them loose on the public lands in your state. Oh, and if they stray onto private land, and tear the crap out of your crops, that’s too bad, you can’t do anything about it....Harm one and you go to jail. Somebody killed one a few years back, I wish they would hunt down child molesters with such zeal...and give them the same punishment...
We need to get misplaced emotions out of the wild horse management issue.
Thank you for the correction. I had been calling the documentary “Unbroken” when it’s actually “Unbranded”.
I’ve been corrected.......”Unbroken” should be “Unbranded” if you’re looking for it on Netflix
Indians claim the mantle of Native American, but I’ve always said what makes them native just because they immigrated first across the Bering straits?
Ive eaten horse meat in Petionville Haiti
Prepared au poivre french style is was not bad
Tender yet lean
Slightly game like Elk
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